<div><div><div dir="auto">I would have expected tracktype=grade2 for a gravel road. Is it common to use grade1 in that area for very well built, quality gravel roads?</div></div></div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Joseph</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 12:11 PM Johnparis <<a href="mailto:okosm@johnfreed.com" target="_blank">okosm@johnfreed.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Don't know how you deduced "no space?" from Martin's comment. A space is an alphanumeric character. In any case, as I mentioned, there is normally a local consensus on space-versus-no space, and as others have mentioned, it's up to you. <br></div><div><br></div><div>The problem with space-vs-no space arises particularly with refs, which are searchable. If you include the space for refs of national routes in Morocco, someone will remove it; if you omit it in Algeria, someone will add it. There are some advantages to consistency within a given area, and the tagging consensus will be documented (hopefully) on the wiki or the local mailing list (as is the case for the national routes I cited). "Paint the label" is fine in general but there can be other considerations (signs, as you know, aren't always correct).<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Tag *names*, by contrast, use an underscore instead of a space. Kevin Kenny's comment above indicates what appears to be the consensus on the tag name(s) in the USA. So in theory you might have ref:US:NFSR:Raggeds_Wilderness:NFH=FS 826. That seems to me to be a bit much to swallow ...<br></div><div><br></div></div><div>You can see the tagging on the Court Street example he cites here: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/45759030" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/45759030</a></div><div><br></div><div>Here's a Colorado national forest highway with a nearby CR: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/17062214#map=14/38.8684/-107.1015" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/17062214#map=14/38.8684/-107.1015</a></div><div><br></div><div>The tags look reasonable to me:</div><div><br>highway=unclassified<br>name=Lake Irwin Road 826<br>ref=FS-826<br>source=Gunnison County GIS data, USFS, Bing<br>surface=gravel<br>tracktype=grade1</div><div><br></div><div>... except that, again, you might want to use a space instead of a hyphen in the "ref" tag in this case, and normally you'd use semicolons (not commas) as a separator in the "source" tag.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 12:28 AM Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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roads use "FS " with a space, at least that seems<br>
to be common. So should those be "FS739.1A' ?<br>
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The mapper is in charge of what goes into OSM. They should map what
they see, not conform to some 'rule' of 'no spaces' etc etc. Map the
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