<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all</div><div><br></div><div>The proposal to introduce marker=* key for all kind of utility markers is about to be voted.</div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Utility_markers_proposal">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Utility_markers_proposal</a></div><div><br></div><div>All previous comments have been solved and any new one will be welcome.</div><div><br></div><div>Currently, more than 6k object are described with undocumented marker=stone which conflicts a bit with proposed marker classification.<br></div><div>As those are mainly (to be determined on each situation) highway milestones or private ground limits, they're not covered by this proposal</div><div>A suggestion would to define marker=milestone or marker=land_limit + support=pedestal + material=stone.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>François<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 19 juil. 2019 à 21:22, François Lacombe <<a href="mailto:fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com">fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Jospeh</div><div><br></div><div>This proposal is an attempt to bring consistency in markers mapping, in two ways :</div><div>- Provide a common concept to tag them all.</div><div>- Free pipeline=* from some features unrelated directly to pipeline operation.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Second point should encourage a mapping good practice I didn't have in mind in previous pipeline mapping evolutions : the marker shouldn't be part of the pipeline way directly as it warns about the presence of pipelines in a given range or distances.</div><div>Just like road signs should get their own node beside the road instead of be part the highway way.<br></div><div><div>To me yes, we should encourage to use marker=pipeline instead of pipeline=marker prior to the last gets *really* used.<br></div><div>29k features is less than the whole amount of pipeline markers we have to find in France (which is a small area).</div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>François<br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 18 juil. 2019 à 06:07, Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">It looks like the main effect of this proposal would be to replace pipeline=marker (used 29k times) with marker=pipeline, though the new key marker= could also be used for power cables and telecommunications cables.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is it really necessary to change pipeline=marker?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-Joseph</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:10 PM François Lacombe <<a href="mailto:fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com" target="_blank">fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>Here is another proposal we were two working on it.</div><div>It regards several kinds of utility markers usually warning about buried infrastructure beneath them.</div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Utility_markers_proposal" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Utility_markers_proposal</a></div><div><br></div><div>Markers are currently described with keys like pipeline=* and power=* although they're not directly involved in infrastructure running processes (like a valve can be on a pipeline for instance).</div><div>Then it can be useful to define a new key marker=* to gather more categories on OSM (pipeline is for now the most mapped here) and prevent pipeline, power and telecom keys be cluttered with not directly related features.</div><div><br></div><div>Note that markers mapping is important on OSM as location signs and relevant data to verify presence of not visible infrastructures.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Feel free to raise concerns here and on talk page.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>François</div></div>
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