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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/09/19 04:11, Paul Allen wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at
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              <div class="gmail_quote">is "motorcar" a term that is
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          <div>Not much. <br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">How do you tag the generic bus
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Is there such a thing?  There are buses
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        <div class="gmail_quote">or alight at specified stops (perhaps
          elsewhere at the driver's discretion).  There are coaches</div>
        <div class="gmail_quote">use for day trips and coaches for long
          distance.  All are classed by the UK gov't as PSVs</div>
        <div class="gmail_quote"> (as are taxis, minibuses and stretch
          limos).<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">FWIW, the common term "bus" is
                already taken for buses acting as public service
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          <div>Except "PSV" doesn't mean what you think it means in the
            UK.  But I'm happy with how OSM</div>
          <div>uses the term bus, because that's how most people in the
            UK use it, and I think is what our</div>
          <div>gov't calls a "registered local service."<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote"> so there must be something else
                for the generic vehicle class for buses.</div>
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          <div>There must?  Why?  I can't think of it.  There may very
            well be one, in common usage,</div>
          <div>but it doesn't spring to mind.<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote"> I am not insisting on
                "motorbus", but it seemed to fit with the rest of the
                terms, and it didn't seem to have specific meaning,
                which the currently documented "tourist_bus" obviously
                has.<br>
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          <div>There was a time when all buses were pulled by horses. <br>
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    ? Umm were they not coaches? Cobb & Co etc. <br>
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    1700s on. <br>
    Oh  I found horsebuses were later.. 1824... humm never heard of them
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          <div> Then along came Daimler, Otto</div>
          <div>and others and eventually there were new-fangled
            motorbuses.  Proudly called motorbuses</div>
          <div>because they had a motor instead of being pulled by
            horses.  More time passed and</div>
          <div> horse-drawn buses became a rarity, and what were once
            called motorbuses were simply</div>
          <div>called buses.  Although horse-drawn buses are exceedingly
            rare, they would also fit into</div>
          <div>the generic, as yet unnamed, category that includes
            buses, coaches, minibuses, etc.</div>
          <div>Motorbus is pretty much an archaism.<br>
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          <div>Since a bus and coach are extremes in terms of size and
            weight of PSVs, and look</div>
          <div>very similar from the outside, I'd be reasonably happy to
            accept access=bus as meaning</div>
          <div>both.  I can foresee the possibility that buses are
            allowed but coaches are not, but is it</div>
          <div>likely?  No doubt somebody will chip in with an example. 
            Actually, I can think of one:</div>
          <div>an automatic vehicle barrier that opens if it detects a
            bus (local registered service)</div>
          <div>but not any other type of vehicle, so it would exclude
            coaches.  Yes, such a thing</div>
          <div>exists.<br>
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    Tourist coaches here deliver there passengers and then go elsewhere
    to park in the busy places. <br>
    They cannot park in a regular 'bus stop' as those get used by the
    regular passenger services. <br>
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