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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/09/19 04:11, Paul Allen wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at
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<div class="gmail_quote">is "motorcar" a term that is
common in British English? <br>
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<div>Not much. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">How do you tag the generic bus
class in Britain?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Is there such a thing? There are buses
which operate to a timetable and anyone may board</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">or alight at specified stops (perhaps
elsewhere at the driver's discretion). There are coaches</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">use for day trips and coaches for long
distance. All are classed by the UK gov't as PSVs</div>
<div class="gmail_quote"> (as are taxis, minibuses and stretch
limos).<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">FWIW, the common term "bus" is
already taken for buses acting as public service
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<div>Except "PSV" doesn't mean what you think it means in the
UK. But I'm happy with how OSM</div>
<div>uses the term bus, because that's how most people in the
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<div class="gmail_quote"> so there must be something else
for the generic vehicle class for buses.</div>
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<div>There must? Why? I can't think of it. There may very
well be one, in common usage,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"> I am not insisting on
"motorbus", but it seemed to fit with the rest of the
terms, and it didn't seem to have specific meaning,
which the currently documented "tourist_bus" obviously
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<div>There was a time when all buses were pulled by horses. <br>
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? Umm were they not coaches? Cobb & Co etc. <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/britain-1700-to-1900/transport-1750-to-1900/coaches-1750-to-1900/">https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/britain-1700-to-1900/transport-1750-to-1900/coaches-1750-to-1900/</a><br>
1700s on. <br>
Oh I found horsebuses were later.. 1824... humm never heard of them
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<div> Then along came Daimler, Otto</div>
<div>and others and eventually there were new-fangled
motorbuses. Proudly called motorbuses</div>
<div>because they had a motor instead of being pulled by
horses. More time passed and</div>
<div> horse-drawn buses became a rarity, and what were once
called motorbuses were simply</div>
<div>called buses. Although horse-drawn buses are exceedingly
rare, they would also fit into</div>
<div>the generic, as yet unnamed, category that includes
buses, coaches, minibuses, etc.</div>
<div>Motorbus is pretty much an archaism.<br>
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<div>Since a bus and coach are extremes in terms of size and
weight of PSVs, and look</div>
<div>very similar from the outside, I'd be reasonably happy to
accept access=bus as meaning</div>
<div>both. I can foresee the possibility that buses are
allowed but coaches are not, but is it</div>
<div>likely? No doubt somebody will chip in with an example.
Actually, I can think of one:</div>
<div>an automatic vehicle barrier that opens if it detects a
bus (local registered service)</div>
<div>but not any other type of vehicle, so it would exclude
coaches. Yes, such a thing</div>
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Tourist coaches here deliver there passengers and then go elsewhere
to park in the busy places. <br>
They cannot park in a regular 'bus stop' as those get used by the
regular passenger services. <br>
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