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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/09/19 18:49, Volker Schmidt
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<div>we may have to byte the bullet and allow
semicolon-separated values for landuse. Specific word
combinations are not a good solution<br>
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OSM uses landuse=residential as a broad brush that includes
recreation and commercial uses. It includes various densities of
population. <br>
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Why not landuse=agriculture? As a broad brush it could do well.
Could includes all types of agriculture practice. <br>
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If the output of the area is required then the key produce could be
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<div>So far I know of <br>
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<div>meadow + fruit trees<br>
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<div> bovine pasture + aok trees <br>
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<div>grain + olive trees</div>
<div>grain + Almond</div>
<div>pigs + trees<br>
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<div>I am sure there are many more.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I agree the term silvopasture is
not a synonym for meadow orchards. A meadow
orchard is specifically low density/sparse
trees, while silvopasture indicates a
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<div>Really? I don't see anything in the Wikipedia
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<div>I didn't write it was "dense", I wrote it was
"denser", compared to a meadow orchard.</div>
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<div>fact, it says: "Integrating pasture into
existing woodland presents challenges as well: the
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<div> likely needs to be thinned to increase light
infiltration" It also has pictures of several
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<div>silvopastures, none of which appear to have
dense tree cover throughout. <br>
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<div>it is using the term "woodland". For meadow orchards,
I would use the term "meadow" with trees on it. The term
"silvo" also is about a "forest"/woods. Can you see the
difference?<br>
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<div dir="auto"> Also the meadow in meadow orchard
can be used for either pasture or cutting the
grass, while silvopasture implies pasture.<br>
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<div>The trees scattered throughout would make it
more economic to put animals out to pasture on</div>
<div> it than to mow it. But maybe where you are
people do things the least efficient way. Even if</div>
<div>that is the case, I doubt that would remain
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<div>BTW, we're probably fooling ourselves in many
cases where we say a field is pasture or</div>
<div>meadow: it may change from year to year.</div>
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<div>places in southern Germany used for pasture are often
in environments where (mechanically) cutting the grass is
not feasible, due to steep terrain, or where mowing does
not make a lot of sense because the soil is quite magre.</div>
<div>My point was that "silvopasture" has different
connotations, it is about (some kind of) forest with
animals grazing below, while meadow orchards is about
meadows with sparse (fruit) trees on them (or sparse
orchards on a meadow, if you like to put it the other way
round). Silvopasture requires pasture, meadow orchards
don't.<br>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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