<div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 26 Sep 2019, 15:19 Paul Allen, <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com">pla16021@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Using disused=yes is correct and truthful. Using disused:foo=bar is ALSO correct and truthful.</div><div>Both are documented as valid ways of tagging disused objects.<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Actually, the wiki page for Key:disused: says:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"Use of disused as a simple tag is now discouraged (for example disused=yes)."</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>[...] One way would</div><div>be for them to render only physical objects in the disused namespace, so that<br></div><div> building:disused=yes renders but disused:amenity=toilets does not get a toilet symbol.</div><div>That leaves a problem if somebody uses building=yes + amenity=toilets + disused=yes,</div><div>although that's still possible for a renderer to figure out. [...]</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Tagging two main features on one object isn't good practice anyway (see wiki page One feature, one OSM element).</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">[...] Mostly it seems that disused physical objects should render</div><div dir="auto">but disused properties should not [...]</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think that's the point: disused physical objects can still be helpful (e.g. for orientation), but disused (closed) services rather aren't. Either renderers can make this distinction or we should make it with tagging, by using another prefix for closed services, e.g. was: or closed:, which are both already in use (approx. 35,000 was: vs. approx. 600 closed:). Using disused: for a closed service doesn't feel right anyway.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thus, those disused toilets could be tagged:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">disused:building=toilets</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">and separately</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">was:amenity=toilets</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto">Markus</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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