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<div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">10 Oct 2019, 08:38 by frederik@remote.org:</div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">The question is basically two-fold; one, what are the established<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">standards and rules concerning this situation<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">Splitting road on physical separation<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">seems to be a standard.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">And painted line is not considered<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">as physical separation.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Among obvious reasons is consistency,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">not changing popular things without really good reason and<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">routing for emergency vehicles.</div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Main issues is handling crossing<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">with dual carriageway - even without<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">physical separation on crossing itself<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">ways typically continue split in two,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">or start splitting before crossing.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">(I can send images if that is unclear)<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">It is also disputed whatever splitting<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">road on small separations like<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">crossing with island is advisable.</div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">andtwo, in how far is it<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">acceptable to deviate from these standards if a local mapper thinks it<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">is a good idea.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">It seems poor idea like retagging<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">highway=motorway into droga=autostrada<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">because local mappers dislike English.</div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">Personally I believe that "physical division => separate ways; no<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">physical division => shared way" is the standard in OSM, or perhaps at<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">least the "rule of thumb". But (since people in the German discussion<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">have more or less claimed that the world is going to end if local<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">mappers are allowed to treat this differently) I'd like to hear from<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">mappers in other countries how rigidly this standard is applied.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">During travel I made edits<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">removing invalid separation (only<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">painted line) that I spotted.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">I never felt that I needed to consult local<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">community or that opening note would be preferable.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">In Poland some people expressed that changing<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">road mapped as two ways into single one is waste of time,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">but I don't remember anyone claiming that it is wrong to do this.</div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Though I remember cases of highly complex<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">junctions where it seemed to be necessary/advisable<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">to not follow this rule.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Theoretical example: equivalent of Magic Roundabout in Swindon,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">marked solely by paint, without physical separation<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">would be place where violating this rule<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">would make sense.</div> </body>
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