<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Questions about using cycle relations properly:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am mapping and repairing cycle roads in the Kanto/Tokyo area. There are a lot of designated cycling roads that follow a long rivers and other water features out into the countryside, making up a regional system, and a lot of smaller local cycling roads (also along small rivers) that connect neighborhoods and towns together. </div><div class="">example: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3218181" class="">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3218181</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m working to get all the individual ways of the cycle roads into relations and to properly classify these (local/regional, etc). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But on the cycling layer of OSM, I find regular roads labeled as cycle routes: mountain roads where professional cyclists like to exercise labeled as a “cycling route”, which seems like “mapping for the renderer”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">example: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8066243" class="">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8066243</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- They don’t seem to be cycling roads - all the relation members are trunk roads or similar - no cycleways whatsoever. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-they are dangerous routes with no side-paths, sidewalks, or dedicated cycle lanes - just regular roads.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- they are exercise loops or hill climbs for pro cyclistsand serve no purpose for travelers or commuters.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- they are not, AFAIK, part of an official “cycling network”. The Super-relation someone has added all cycle routes to ( 関東地方サイクリングロード・ネットワーク ). <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8051094" class="">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8051094</a> also seems to be made-up and not official either - the name only returns one result (the OSM data page) when searched. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To me, these non-cycle routes are just garbage relations meant to have the route show up on the cycling view of OSM for people doing workouts. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I want to delete these fake “mountain workout” relations that should be mapped in strava or a similar workout app. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Javbw</div></body></html>