<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I think it depends on the country - most cycling roads in Japan “end” and dump you into a sidewalk to cross rail crossings - otherwise they either avoid the grade crossing or end and put you into regular road traffic to use the road’s grade crossing. they are basically 1-2km long sections of cycleway that constantly “end" and you either join the road traffic (as a car) or use pedestrian routes (crosswalks, sidewalks) to get around obstacles (like railways or crossing a road with an island or similar). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The official documentation for this cycling road details the “detour” on the regular roads to use the car’s grade crossing because they don’t want a cycle grade crossing. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/36.29001/139.36018&layers=C" class="">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/36.29001/139.36018&layers=C</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">you can see the detour in blue on the map</div><div class=""><a href="http://www.kendoseibi.pref.gunma.jp/section/dourokikaku/hp/download/05hebi1.pdf" class="">http://www.kendoseibi.pref.gunma.jp/section/dourokikaku/hp/download/05hebi1.pdf</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m sure there is a dedicated “cycleway grade crossing” somewhere in Japan, but in the few hundred KM of cycleways I have ridden, I have never seen one. most non-motorcar grade crossings are for peds or for tractors. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But I’m also sure there are countries with hundreds of dedicated cycleway crossings. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Perhaps a separate “cycleway grade crossing” is appropriate - iD recently started supporting cycleway crossings. Perhaps this tag is also needed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But please remember that the basic premise that a cyclist is a variant of pedestrian is the idea for a lot of cycling infrastructure around the world, and making a cycleway crossing a “road” crossing rather than a “path” crossing would be considered bad mapping in a lot of places. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please consider this when coming up with a solution to this problem. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Javbw</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 9, 2019, at 11:07 PM, Vɑdɪm <<a href="mailto:vadp.devl@gmail.com" class="">vadp.devl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On the other hand the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic mentions crossings<br class="">for cyclists separately<br class="">(<a href="https://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/conventn/Conv_road_traffic_EN.pdf" class="">https://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/conventn/Conv_road_traffic_EN.pdf</a>):<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">3. (a) The standing or parking of a vehicle on the carriageway shall be<br class="">prohibited:<br class="">(i) On pedestrian crossings, on *crossings for cyclists*, and on<br class="">level-crossings;<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Sent from: <a href="http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html" class="">http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html</a><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Tagging mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" class="">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>