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<div style="16px" text-align="left">You may need to look at the context, or ask local people.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">For example many named peaks, streams, saddles have no explicit sign - <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">you need to ask local people or base it on your own knowledge.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">22 Oct 2019, 16:36 by ilya@zverev.info:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">I understand the reasoning, but I don’t see how can I follow the “truth on the ground” principle. Are there any guidelines on choosing the correct tag? For some reason people don’t write its purpose on a side. And again, images in three of these pages are the same.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class=""><div style="16px" text-align="left">Ilya<br></div><div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><blockquote class="" type="cite"><div class="">On 22 Oct 2019, at 10:46, Martin Koppenhoefer <<a class="" href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div class=""><div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" dir="ltr"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div class=""><div class="" dir="ltr">Am Di., 22. Okt. 2019 um 09:35 Uhr schrieb Ilya Zverev <<a class="" href="mailto:ilya@zverev.info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ilya@zverev.info</a>>:<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class=""><div class="" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">Hi folks,<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Today we were looking for a tag to mark this structure:<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class=""><a class="" target="_blank" href="http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/5/some_hide.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/5/some_hide.jpg</a><br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Searching the wiki gave out FIVE options:<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">- <a class="" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=bird_hide" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dbird_hide</a><br></div><div class="">-<span class=""> </span><a class="" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=wildlife_hide" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dwildlife_hide</a><br></div><div class="">-<span class=""> </span><a class="" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=hunting_stand" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhunting_stand</a><br></div><div class="">-<span class=""> </span><a class="" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:hunting=raised_hide" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:hunting%3Draised_hide</a><br></div><div class="">-<span class=""> </span><a class="" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tower:type=observation" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tower:type%3Dobservation</a><br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">What’s confusing is that photos in the first three look the same, even with a book on birds featured on the wildlife_hide page.<br></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br></div><div class=""><br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class=""><div class="" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=""><br></div><div class="">I can imagine how tower:type=observation differs from the others, but what do you think about four others? Should we add a warning box on all three “_hide” tags to use amenity=hunting_stand instead? Or choose one “_hide” over others? Currently the wiki is very disorienting.<br></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br></div></div><div class=""><br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">a hunting stand is a place where hunters are waiting for animals to shoot them. A bird hide or wildlife hide is a place where you can observe animals / birds.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">I do not recall any discussion about hunting=raised_hide and it seems to be a duplicate or sub-group of hunting stand. The tag should probably be discouraged as stand alone tag (in favor of hunting stand), but it could make sense to state the subtype of hunting stand.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Observation towers are similar features, but usually higher and not specifically for watching animals. The definition says they are for "long distance" observations, while hunting stands are for observing within shooting range.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">With regard to your photo, we cannot tell which is the correct tag, because we do not know what the purpose is.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Cheers,<br></div><div class="">Martin<br></div></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size:14px">_______________________________________________</span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size:14px">Tagging mailing list</span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><a class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><a class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div> </body>
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