<div dir="ltr">AFAIK the traffic regulations are:<div>1. You should *avoid* doing a U-turn at a mini roundabout because there isn't much room to turn in, and people might not be expecting it. You are still allowed to do so.<div>2. *only* drivers of long/large vehicles may only drive over it. Everyone else has to drive round the roundabout as usual<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Point 1 should affect routers to discourage them from suggesting a u-turn, but not prohibit it.</div><div><br></div><div>I believe the same would be true for any country.</div><div><br></div><div>Therefore, it is worth knowing whether it is a mini or standard roundabout.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:27 PM Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com">pla16021@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:59, Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" target="_blank">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><br></div><div>23 Oct 2019, 14:54 by <a href="mailto:richard@systemed.net" target="_blank">richard@systemed.net</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><br><div>It is, pretty much. Plus a few in places heavily influenced by British<br></div><div>practice (Ireland and Hong Kong), and also France as Philip says.<br></div></blockquote><div>And in Poland, though without special<br></div><div>legal implications - the same traffic rules<br></div><div>apply as in usual roundabout.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's fine. A mini roundabout is not just about size, low central island, and number of</div><div>exits but also about legislation. A Polish roundabout could look identical to a UK mini</div><div>roundabout yet have legal restrictions that match an "ordinary" Polish roundabout. That's</div><div>fine. It doesn't have to just walk like a duck and quack like a duck, it also has to have a</div><div>sign round its neck saying "I'm a duck."<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div>I think the best suggestion in this case would be to update the<br></div><div>documentation, particularly in translated pages, clarifying that the tag is<br></div><div>intended for the formal mini-roundabout design as found in the UK, Ireland,<br></div><div>France etc., and not for any flat roundabout.<br></div></blockquote><div>I disagree with such approach for Poland.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Now I'm confused. Richard suggested updating the documentation to explain that</div><div>a mini roundabout is more than just physical characteristics but also about traffic</div><div>regulations: that in certain countries things that look physically like mini roundabouts</div><div>are merely small ordinary roundabouts; and that only in certain countries (which</div><div>excludes Poland) are things that look like mini roundabouts actually mini roundabouts.</div><div>Why would you disagree with that?</div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div></div></div>
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