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<div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">5 Nov 2019, 18:47 by selfishseahorse@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 18:25, Volker Schmidt <voschix@gmail.com> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">This a well-known (small) problem that from time to time turns up in OSM discussions. And then the discussion fizzles out again.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Which is also a well-known problem ...<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">I guess that bicycle=no almost always means that *driving* a bicycle<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">isn't allowed. So it seems just logical to use a new tag for places<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">where pushing (or transporting) bicycles isn't allowed too. Maybe<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">bicycle=total_ban or bicycle_pushed=no?<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">bicycle_pushed=no?<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">bicycle_pushed is more clear for someone encountering it <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">for the first time - bicycle=total_ban is a bit confusing<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Especially as in some places access for bicycles<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">may be "never" (explicit "no bicycle" signs)<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">or "only during extreme weather" (one of cases<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">when it is legal to cycle on sidewalks in Poland).<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">First case should be tagged as bicycle=no, not bicycle=total_ban.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px">Also, it may be OK to carry bicycle in a box and not OK<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">to push (not road access, but in some train you are not allowed to<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">enter with bicycle,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">bit once bicycle is in a box this is considered as entirely fine)<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Additional value to bicycle tag would require support<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">from anyone processing it, while bicycle_pushed=no<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">is backward compatible.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div> </body>
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