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<DIV>Their are Government rules and landowner rules.</DIV>
<DIV>These landowner rules are mostly expressed on the border of their land with
a access_sign
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<DIV>>“typically not traffic rules but additional”</DIV>
<DIV>equally important</DIV>
<DIV>In the rural, their lots of these access_signs.</DIV>
<DIV>Mostly written what is prohibited.</DIV>
<DIV>Text:</DIV>
<DIV>“Access on roads and paths”</DIV>
<DIV>“Forbidden for bicycles”</DIV>
<DIV>“Forbidden for motorvehicles”</DIV>
<DIV>etc.</DIV>
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<DIV>Their access_sign, with written on it, what is allowed and end with “others
prohibited”.</DIV>
<DIV>To catch all these others in tags.</DIV>
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<DIV>Lately I was in contact with a landowner of a estate, because of financial
benefits, he can open up the area for use, setting the rules by himself. (Their
are regulations, what he can do or not).</DIV>
<DIV>Then I asked, if it is allowed to push a bicycle. No, you are not. And this
is very common on many nature reserves and natural environments.</DIV>
<DIV>He also wanted only walking, not running. running=no? Area located next to
a residential area, with sports accommodation in the nearby area. He did not
want (organized) running groups to use his area.</DIV>
<DIV>No, dogs.</DIV>
<DIV>He expect from me to tag it right, I mentioned that OSM does not have that
strict forbidden tags.</DIV>
<DIV>He find that strange.</DIV>
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<DIV>That’s why, my thoughts, also other transportation modes are not allowed to
push in the area.</DIV>
<DIV>vehicle=no_vehicle, then I catch all the transportation mode in a one tag
combination.</DIV>
<DIV>If it is a key, I must have all these key variations.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=dieterdreist@gmail.com>Martin Koppenhoefer</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 6, 2019 3:17 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=tagging@openstreetmap.org>Tag discussion, strategy and
related tools</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing
bicycle not allowed here"?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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need a hard and strict no.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>I would agree with this, altough these are typically not traffic rules but
additional, arbitrary rules like dress codes, gender based restrictions,
etc.</DIV>
<DIV>People want to express those rules, so we should have a tag that
unambigously expresses the rule.<BR></DIV>
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