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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/6/2019 3:08 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">bicycle_pushed=no?<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">bicycle_pushed is more clear
for someone encountering it <br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">for the first time -
bicycle=total_ban is a bit confusing<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">Especially as in some places
access for bicycles<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">may be "never" (explicit "no
bicycle" signs)<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">or "only during extreme
weather" (one of cases<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">when it is legal to cycle on
sidewalks in Poland).<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">First case should be tagged as
bicycle=no, not bicycle=total_ban.<br>
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<div style="16px">Also, it may be OK to carry bicycle in a box
and not OK<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">to push (not road access,
but in some train you are not allowed to<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">enter with bicycle,<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">bit once bicycle is in a box
this is considered as entirely fine)</div>
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<p>Maybe I'm missing something here but I don't see any reason why
data consumers, including the bicycle modes of routing engines,
should ever interpret bicycle=no in a way that permits walking
bicycles. This is exactly why we have a bicycle=dismount tag.</p>
<p>Carrying a bicycle is an edge case that might deserve its own
value -- bicycle=carried works for me. And if we need further
refined values to explicitly permit a folding bike or
bike-in-a-box, no problem: bicycle=folded, bicycle=boxed. </p>
<p>(Special permission for extreme weather should be encoded with
some variation of the conditional access tag scheme.)<br>
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<p>Jason<br>
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