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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Berms are also used in motocross.. and
      MTBs<br>
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      Looks like berm is a term used/misused for some different things..
      may be best to use something else? <br>
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      On 26/11/19 19:28, Volker Schmidt wrote:<br>
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        <div>Graeme, please mark the page as proposal.</div>
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        <div>I am not at all happy with "berm". It is unfortunately a
          term used for a number of different things all related to
          earthworks.<br>
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        <div>What is missing in OSM are clean-cut mapping possibilities
          for (slopped) earth walls  and for (one-sided) slopes.</div>
        <div>Berm is neither of the two. In addition the main and
          original meaning of berm is a step in the slope of an earth
          wall. See the first diagram in the <a
            href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berme"
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          that I would like to map properly: A river levee with two
          berms.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 03:59,
          Dave Swarthout <<a href="mailto:daveswarthout@gmail.com"
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          <div dir="ltr">The proposal looks good to me. Thanks for your
            effort.<br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at
              9:51 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a
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              <div dir="ltr">Following the recent discussions of
                protective walls, I've created a page for barrier=berm 
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                  href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dberm"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dberm</a>
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                <div>As it is already in use 61 times, I didn't think we
                  had to go through the full RFC / voting procedure, but
                  please correct me if I'm wrong?</div>
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                <div>As always, comments & discussion welcomed! :-)</div>
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                <div>Thanks<br>
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                        <div>Graeme</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Dave Swarthout<br>
              Homer, Alaska<br>
              Chiang Mai, Thailand</div>
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