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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thank you Michael! Saves me from doing
      it.. it is on my list of 'things that should be done' .. quite a
      long list. <br>
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      On 06/12/19 21:15, Michael Behrens wrote:<br>
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href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hiking_trail_relation_roles"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hiking_trail_relation_roles</a> 
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        <div><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">There
            is no unique way to tag roles in hiking route relations
            although they carry a high potential for the rendering of
            hiking trails. This proposal was requsted by Sarah Hoffmann
            on the FOSSGIS conference. A only officially marked trails
            should be added to the relations!</span></div>
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                <th style="border:1px solid
rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px;background-color:rgb(233,233,233);text-align:center">Role
                  name</th>
                <th style="border:1px solid
rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px;background-color:rgb(233,233,233);text-align:center">Explaination</th>
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                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px"><i>None</i> or <code
style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(248,249,250);border:1px
                    solid rgb(234,236,240);border-radius:2px;padding:1px
                    4px">main</code></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px">The main "normal"
                  roletype for the main section of the hiking trails.</td>
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                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px"><code
style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(248,249,250);border:1px
                    solid rgb(234,236,240);border-radius:2px;padding:1px
                    4px">forward</code></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px">Section of the hiking
                  trail that can only be hiked into the direction of the
                  way.</td>
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                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px"><code
style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(248,249,250);border:1px
                    solid rgb(234,236,240);border-radius:2px;padding:1px
                    4px">backward</code></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px">Section of the hiking
                  trail that can only be hiked against the direction of
                  the way.</td>
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                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px"><code
style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(248,249,250);border:1px
                    solid rgb(234,236,240);border-radius:2px;padding:1px
                    4px">alternative</code> or <code
style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(248,249,250);border:1px
                    solid rgb(234,236,240);border-radius:2px;padding:1px
                    4px">alternate</code></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px">Tags the members of an
                  alternative path to <i>main</i> path.</td>
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                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px"><code
style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(248,249,250);border:1px
                    solid rgb(234,236,240);border-radius:2px;padding:1px
                    4px">excursion</code></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px">Can be used on parts of
                  the trail that leads to a viewpoint, peak or other.
                  The path has to be hiked back again or else it will be
                  a <i>alternative</i>.</td>
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                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px"><code
style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(248,249,250);border:1px
                    solid rgb(234,236,240);border-radius:2px;padding:1px
                    4px">approach</code></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px">A path that is leading
                  from a town, train station / bus station or parking to
                  main hiking trail or the other way around.</td>
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                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px"><code
style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(248,249,250);border:1px
                    solid rgb(234,236,240);border-radius:2px;padding:1px
                    4px">shortcut</code></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(170,170,170);padding:4px">A trail that shortens
                  the main trail.<br>
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    A 'shortcut' is an alternative .. I see no need for a separate role,
    just use 'alternate'? <br>
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    Roles on member ways or on member relations?<br>
    The example given has a super relation with a number of member
    relations, these have no role in the super relation.<br>
    An alternative is the super relation with each member relation
    having roles. A poor example would be relation 176684 that has one
    member relation with part of the name 'alternative routes'. <br>
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    What is 'best'? In this case best for the mapper (as is usual OSM
    practice). Any thoughts? <br>
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