<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/12/19 16:00, John Willis via
Tagging wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:701B5C54-AC16-4278-88C5-18112F24D278@mac.com">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<br class="">
<div><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Dec 9, 2019, at 6:36 AM, Warin <<a
href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration:
none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">individual
ways that have the direction, not the entire relation.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">some routes (made of many overlapping pieces of
trail) are considered ascents and decents. the named “trail" is
made of the ascent route and descent route. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">tagging Mt fuji is the opposite of a trail hundreds
or thousands of Km long - it’s a few routes less than 10 KM long
used by thousands of people every day of the season. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><a
href="http://www.fujisan-climb.jp/en/m8bimq0000001afw-img/Fuji_Climbing_Map_L.jpg"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.fujisan-climb.jp/en/m8bimq0000001afw-img/Fuji_Climbing_Map_L.jpg</a></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">The colors are the different trails. the dashed
lines are the descent routes. there are overlapping ascent and
decent routes from different trails (subashiri & Yoshida
between the summit and 8th station) and shared paths/tracks as
well. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">it would be nice to be able to tag the
ascent/descent/both. <br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
If the route is considered to be a return then I would map it like a
public transport version 2 route <br>
from the start/finish<br>
way 1 role forward<br>
way 2 (assent) role forward<br>
way3 role forward<br>
(top)<br>
way 3 role backwards<br>
way 4 (decent) role forward<br>
way 1 role backwards<br>
<br>
????<br>
The elevation profile will give you assent/decent info. Are ways 2
& 4 one way? If so you could use the description key on those
ways to say assent/decent? <br>
But ways 1&3 are 2 way. <br>
<br>
Problem with the above .. you could not easily split one route at
the top to use another route to descend. If the accent and decent
were different relations then it would be easier, and each relation
can have the assent.decent description. Of course both these routes
could be included into a relation to combine them with the name
etc. <br>
???<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:701B5C54-AC16-4278-88C5-18112F24D278@mac.com">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I mentioned this in the comments, but the answer
didn’t seem to address the issue directly. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">also - does the relation need intersection/junction
nodes? <br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
I don't think so. <br>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:701B5C54-AC16-4278-88C5-18112F24D278@mac.com">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">also also - links?</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
What links? urls? or do you mean ways that connect the route to
bus/train/etc? In which case I think those can be role approach ? <br>
<br>
<br>
<p><br>
</p>
</body>
</html>