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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/12/19 10:15, Chris Hill wrote:<br>
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<p>I have been a native British English speaker for about sixty
years. A trip from A to B and then back to A, either on a fully
reversed route or an alternative route, would could be described
as a round trip. There is certainly no element of a curved or
looping route required to make it a round trip.</p>
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Nor is there anything in 'round trip' to exclude a curved circular
route. Would be interesting to find the origin of 'round trip'. <br>
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<p>HTH</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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cheers
Chris Hill (chillly)</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/12/2019 22:48, Phake Nick
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Merriam Webster and some other resources you
have quoted are dictionary for American English, not the
variant of English used by OSM. Posts by original author of
the topic on the wiki talk page have explained the meaning of
the term in British English.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">在 2019年12月20日週五
06:19，Francesco Ansanelli <<a
href="mailto:francians@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">francians@gmail.com</a>>
寫道：<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il gio 19 dic 2019,
23:00 Warin <<a
href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com"
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ha scritto:<br>
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20/12/19 01:16, Francesco Ansanelli wrote:<br>
> Dear List,<br>
><br>
> I have updated the roundtrip page and created
the closed loop proposal <br>
> in order to address the misuse of the first
tag:<br>
> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:roundtrip"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:roundtrip</a><br>
> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:closed_loop=yes"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:closed_loop=yes</a><br>
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> Please let me know what you think<br>
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The word 'round' implies circular. So a 'roundtrip'
could be a circular <br>
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<div dir="auto">I'm not a mother tongue but:</div>
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href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/round%20trip"
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;display:inline"><span
style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:normal;line-height:22px;vertical-align:baseline;letter-spacing:0.2px;color:rgb(48,51,54)"><span
style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:normal;line-height:22px;vertical-align:baseline;letter-spacing:0.2px"><span
style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:bolder;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">: </span>a
trip to a place and back usually over the
same route</span></span></div>
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Oxford Dictionary (usually taken as a good source for UK English): <span
class="sn-gs" id="roundtrip_sngs_2"><span class="sn-g"
id="roundtrip_sng_2"><span class="def" id="roundtrip_def_2">a
journey to a place and back again<br>
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Nothing about 'over the same route'. <br>
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<span
style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">A
trip from one place to another and back, usually over
the same route.</span><br>
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style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font
face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#404040"><span
style="font-size:13px"><a
href="https://www.yourdictionary.com/round-trip"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.yourdictionary.com/round-trip</a></span></font><br>
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trip</h2>
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<div style="margin:0px 0px
1em;padding:0px;direction:ltr;line-height:1.25em">A
trip from one place to another and back, usually
over the same route.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Idk if it's clearer why I tried to match
the definition.</div>
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route that does not go from A to B and back along
the same route, it <br>
could go A to B to C and then back to A via D. As
such your rewording is <br>
wrong and does not match present use.<br>
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Revert your change.<br>
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<div dir="auto">How about a voting?</div>
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You may have done that before your change. <br>
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As I understand it you want to distinguish between routes that use
the same route to return to the same place compared to those routes
that return to the same place by a different route or at least
sections are different. <br>
At present both of those are in OSMs 'roundtrip'. Would not this
information be obtained by looking at the route as mapped in OSM? Is
there a need to add this information? <br>
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