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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/12/19 20:37, Tobias Zwick wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">It could be useful to check (at random) how the tag is currently used - as synonym for graveyard, or for religious or both, at times (-> tag is ambiguos) and put that info in the wiki as well.
If it's both as you suspect, it's a very good reason to point to the other tags instead.
Tobias
Am 23. Dezember 2019 06:27:55 MEZ schrieb Joseph Eisenberg <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com"><joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com></a>:
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<pre wrap="">The tag landuse=churchyard has been used several thousand times, but
amenity=graveyard is over 10 times more common, and landuse=religious
is 4 times more common.
I would recommend discouraging use of this tag, because the wiki
definition contradicts the plain-English meaning of churchyard, which
is usually a graveyard (cemetry) or burial ground next to a church.
The wiki page for landuse=churchyard claims "Used to map the area
surrounding a christian church or chapel, particularly when this does
not contain a graveyard" - this conflicts with the common English
definition of the value.
Cambridge Dictionary (UK):
"an area of land around a church, where dead bodies are buried "</pre>
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<pre>The Oxford Dictionary (UK) has: </pre>
<pre><span class="sn-gs" id="churchyard_sngs_1"><span class="sn-g" id="churchyard_sng_1"><span class="def" id="churchyard_def_1">an area of land around a church, often used for burying people in</span></span></span></pre>
<pre><span class="sn-gs" id="churchyard_sngs_1"><span class="sn-g" id="churchyard_sng_1"><span class="def" id="churchyard_def_1"></span></span></span></pre>
<span class="sn-gs" id="churchyard_sngs_1"><span class="sn-g"
id="churchyard_sng_1"><span class="def" id="churchyard_def_1"><br>
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<pre><span class="sn-gs" id="churchyard_sngs_1"><span class="sn-g" id="churchyard_sng_1"><span class="def" id="churchyard_def_1">So not necessarily a burial ground. </span></span></span></pre>
<pre><span class="sn-gs" id="churchyard_sngs_1"><span class="sn-g" id="churchyard_sng_1"><span class="def" id="churchyard_def_1"></span></span></span></pre>
<span class="sn-gs" id="churchyard_sngs_1"><span class="sn-g"
id="churchyard_sng_1"><span class="def" id="churchyard_def_1"><br>
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Merriam-Webster (US):
"a yard that belongs to a church and is often used as a burial ground."
To avoid ambiguity, mappers can use the two well-accepted tags
landuse=religious + religion=christian
OR
amenity=graveyard + religion=christian, depending on the situation.</pre>
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<pre>Agree that these 2 tags are less ambiguous.
But then with some places it may be hard to tell if there are bodies buried there. </pre>
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I would like to update the wiki page for landuse=churchyard to suggest
not using the tag and changing to one of the other two tags +
religion=christian instead.
- Joseph Eisenberg
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