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<body>I suggest we use additional tags to specify this more precisely.<br><br>I think the lack of supports should be tagged supports=no or bicycle_support=no.<br>Additionally lock_support=no or lock_stands=12. <br>I'm not English so I don't know what would be the best word for these devices. In Danish they are probably called låsestolpe (lock pole) or låsebue (lock bow). In swedish I would call them låsbåge (lock bow) or perhaps låshjälp (lock help). <br> WDYT?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On January 31, 2020 10:04:02 AM GMT+01:00, Warin <61sundowner@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Usually the bicycle rests on something.
And if you going to leave it for any time then locking it to some
thing is a good idea. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Floor may be a poor choice? Flat may be
more descriptive? There is nothing there for bicycles to lean on
or be fastened to. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">(Yes I know some parts of the world
bicycles normally come with stands so they can be self suporting.
But most bicycles hare have no stands.)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/1/20 5:50 pm, Thibault Molleman
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<div dir="auto">I agree, was pretty confused when I saw that as
well (after I had mapped a bunch of regular parkings and then
did some bicycle ones)</div>
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<div>It lists “floor” as the value for a wide open outdoor
space with no stands or other affordances designated for
parking bicycles. </div>
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<div>this seems weird to me. the ground / asphalt area next
to a supermarket is not a “floor”.</div>
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<div>we use “surface” in car parking lots, and there are
many of other types of indoor tags for tagging when a bike
is in a building or shed (similar to parking=multilevel). </div>
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<div>I think that the values be standardized and the wiki
changed. </div>
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<div>there is 60 uses of (undocumented) =surface and ~260
uses of (documented) =floor. </div>
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<div>we should standardize how we tag parking lots for any
vehicle if it is just a flat outdoor surface. </div>
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