<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpee943d96yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div>>Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 08:59:40 +0100</div><div>>>From: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@gmail.com></div><div>></div><div>>To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"</div><div>> <tagging@openstreetmap.org></div><div>>Subject: Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface</div><div>>Message-ID: <8AA7582F-13D3-486C-9C47-87CA8A1F8F49@gmail.com></div><div>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii</div><div>></div><div>></div><div>></div><div>>sent from a phone</div><div>></div><div>>> Il giorno 3 feb 2020, alle ore 04:32, John Willis via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org> ha scritto:</div><div>>></div><div>>> All of the other bicycle_parking values *imply an ability to lock your bike to some object*, but =ground_slots and =floor (and =surface) imply *do not*, because it is assumed that cyclists know about this already.</div><div>></div><div>></div><div>>IMHO =surface does not imply anything on the presence of stands, but rather should be interpreted like parking=surface, as opposed to parking=underground/multi-storey.</div><div>></div><div>>We should distinguish the type of parking and the kind of stands with different tags</div><div>></div><div>>Cheers Martin</div><div>></div><div>></div><div><br></div></div>+1 </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I agree that "surface" should be used to mean the same for bicycles as for cars (i.e. not underground, or multi-storey), perhaps with "covered=yes", if there is something to keep the rain or sun off.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">If we want to show what security apparatus is provided, could we use "security={rail/post/hoop/lock_provided/whatever}" ?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The tag "security" is currently used only 580 times and most values seem to be security company names. I cannot find any wiki documentation for it, but using it to show the types of security device provided should not conflict with current usage.</div><div><br></div><div class="ydpee943d96signature"><div style="font-family:new times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div>Regards,</div><div dir="ltr">Peter</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>