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Thank you for the detailed mail.</div>
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The tags I've used indeed doesn't exactly fit, as you figured out during your search.</div>
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I couldn't find anything existing that would be a better match.</div>
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"Picnic room" seems to be used by some ski resort in France, and I've seen it on some tourism forums on ski threads so it might at least be understood by english skiers.</div>
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I'm unsure whether creating something like "indoor_food_consumption" is a good idea if the only usage is for ski resorts and a less-generic name exists.<br>
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What do you think?<br>
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<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 30 janvier 2020 12:05<br>
<b>À :</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [Tagging] Ski picnic room</font>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 10:26, MARLIN LUKE <<a href="mailto:luke.marlin@viacesi.fr">luke.marlin@viacesi.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
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Noticed amenity=shelter. I initially thought about combining it with shelter-type:picnic, but it seems too... "open" for me. Like, not a complete building.</div>
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<div>Shelter seems "open." But so does "picnic." Wikipedia confirms my</div>
<div>understanding of "picnic" - an outdoors meal: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picnic">
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<div>All I've managed to turn up on Google for "picnic room" are translations of</div>
<div>"salle hors sac" made by people who don't speak English as a first language.</div>
<div>Google Translate gives me "out of bag" for "hors sac" which in colloquial</div>
<div>English would be "packed meal." And you take a packed meal on a picnic,</div>
<div>so "salle hors sac" turns into "picnic room." Which is not colloquial English</div>
<div>or anything a British English speaker would comprehend as being what you</div>
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<div class="x_gmail_quote">What you're describing is almost a cafeteria (which we already have a tag for)</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">except that there may not be any purchasable food and, if there is purchasable</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">food, it's from a vending machine whereas real cafeterias generally offer self-service</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">food. So fast_food=cafeteria is a better fit, but still not a good fit.</div>
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<div class="x_gmail_quote">A better fit would be automat, although I think that's an American term with</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">little or no usage in British English. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automat">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automat</a><br>
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<div class="x_gmail_quote">And, if I understand you correctly, there may not be vending machines in some of</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">these places, and most real automats wouldn't let you bring your own food.<br>
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<div class="x_gmail_quote">I can't think of any good term for a building which contains tables and chairs</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">which you can use to eat a packed meal. We have leisure=outdoor_seating</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">for consumption of meals/drinks, but that is open, even if covered. And the</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">tag value itself doesn't convey that it's for food, you have to look at the wiki</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">page or see that it is used near to somewhere serving food which is tagged</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">as having outdoor seating. So inventing leisure=indoor_seating is</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">probably a bad idea, especially if there are no vending machines.</div>
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<div class="x_gmail_quote">It probably needs something along the lines of leisure=indoor_food_consumption</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">(needs a better name than that) with optional amenity=vending_machine +
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<div class="x_gmail_quote">vending=food|drinks nodes. And maybe an explicit bring_your_own_food=yes tag</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">(needs a better name than that). Actually, leisure=dining_room might be a better</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">name than leisure=indoor_food_consumption, except it's not really used in British</div>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">English for a public room but for a room in a house or guest house.</div>
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