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Thank you for your input and collaboration in clarifying this
important issue regarding fountains.<br>
I agree with your changes and I'll adapt it also in the Portuguese
wiki.<br>
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I also thank to everyone who participated and helped discuss this.<br>
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Regards,<br>
António.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Às 12:21 de 04/02/2020, European Water
Project escreveu:<br>
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All, </p>
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have made the following changes to the wiki page - which I
think makes it clearer that amenity=fountain &&
drinking_water=yes is an acceptable tag pair for fountains of
historic or cultural significance which serve potable water. </p>
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style="font-size:11pt">Feel free to amend or reverse them if
you feel they are inconsistent. </span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain</a><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"> </span> <br>
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style="font-size:11pt">Best regards,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
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SENTENCE</p>
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8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The
water of those fountains is often not suitable for
drinking.</p>
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OLD SENTENCE
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The
water of fountains tagged as amenity=fountain is often
not drinkable – especially the large ornamental ones. </p>
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OLD SENTENCE
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">If
providing drinking water
is not the primary use of a fountain but the water is
drinkable nonetheless use </span><tt
style="font-family:"Courier New""><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background:rgb(238,238,255)"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water"
title="Key:drinking water" style="color:blue"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration-line:none">drinking_water</span></a></span>=yes</tt><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> (see
the tag page for more detailed tagging).</span></p>
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OLD SENTENCE
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Please
tag a drinking
fountain which does not meet the tag criteria, such as a
modern metal fountain
in a train station as amenity=drinking_water.
<br><br>If the fountain
provides drinking water and meets the requisites for being
tagged as a fountain,
add an additional tag </span><tt
style="font-family:"Courier New""><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background:rgb(238,238,255)"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water"
title="Key:drinking water" style="color:blue"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration-line:none">drinking_water</span></a></span>=yes</tt><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> (see
the tag page for more detailed tagging).</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
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face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">Also :</span></font></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">I
have added pictures of
three fountains meeting the above criteria which dispense
drinking water. 1) Paris,France 2) Trento, Italy, 3)
Lorigo, Portugal </span></p>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 14:15,
European Water Project <<a
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you Martin,
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<div>I will make some limited changes, which I believe are
consistent with the recent discussions, to make it clearer
that a fountain - which deserves that name - can also have
a utilitarian function of delivering drinking water. I
will also add a couple more photos of historic fountains
which serve potable water.</div>
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<div>After making these changes, I will send out a summary
note to this list just to be on the safe side. </div>
<div><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain</a> <br>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
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<div>Stuart </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at
14:02, Martin Koppenhoefer <<a
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Di., 4. Feb. 2020
um 09:15 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <<a
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<div dir="ltr">Dear All,
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<div>I agree with Antonio that the wiki is too
ambiguous and needs a bit of clean up, including
more image examples of drinking fountains which
merit to be tagged as</div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">amenity=fountain</span><br
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">drinking_water=yes</span> </div>
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<div>What is the best practice process for making
controlled contributions to the wiki pages ?</div>
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<div>there are no controlled contributions to the wiki
;-)</div>
<div>If you feel the page needs clarification or other
improvement, you can either discuss them beforehand,
for example here (or maybe on the talk-page in the
wiki, but that may be a longer process), or you just
perform them an see what happens :)</div>
<div>It really depends how much your edit is consistent
with the views of the other "contributors"
(particularily those who guard the wiki), how much you
are going to change, in which domain (userpages, tag
pages, organisational pages, summary pages, pages for
beginners, etc.) of the wiki you are editing, etc.</div>
<div>There is no clear answer to your question.</div>
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<div>From my point of view, any fountain where you are
starting to think that it might get the
amenity=fountain tag probably should get this tag.<br>
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<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Martin<br>
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