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<div>I see no good reason to count explicit "abstain but have comments"<br></div><div> exactly like "vote against".<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Feb 5, 2020, 14:58 by joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Well, if we count all of those, it is 68% (13/19) which is less than<br></div><div>the 74% cut-off.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I don't think this should be considered "approved". There were several<br></div><div>comments that "free box" or something else that is more common in<br></div><div>British English should be considered instead.<br></div><div><br></div><div>More important than the number of votes is whether signficant problems<br></div><div>and objections have been addressed. In this case, the concern is that<br></div><div>"give box" is quite rare in Britain and other native English-speaking<br></div><div>countries, and is not unambiguous.<br></div><div><br></div><div>- Joseph Eisenberg<br></div><div><br></div><div>On 2/5/20, Markus Peloso <mar.pel@outlook.com> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dgive_box<br></div><div><br></div><div>A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in<br></div><div>the sense of free sharing and reuse.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Hi<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for voting and for the inputs. Based on the result «13 votes for, 1<br></div><div>vote against and 5 abstentions» I set the status to approved :D.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,<br></div><div>Markus<br></div><div><br></div><div>Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar.pel@outlook.com><br></div><div>Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Januar 2020 09:42<br></div><div>An: Tag discussion, strategy and related<br></div><div>tools<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org><br></div><div>Betreff: Feature Proposal - Voting - give box<br></div><div><br></div><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box<br></div><div><br></div><div>A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in<br></div><div>the sense of free sharing.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Hi<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the discussion, inputs and improvement to this tag.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I request for voting now.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Feel free to give also a negative answer if you only don’t like the name.<br></div><div>Then please write in the comments what name you prefer. Based on the result<br></div><div>I will made a second vote with a new name. Other suggested names are:<br></div><div> • amenity=free_box<br></div><div> • amenity=free_goods<br></div><div> • amenity=give_take_box<br></div><div> • shop=freeshop<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,<br></div><div>Markus<br></div><div><br></div><div>Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar.pel@outlook.com><br></div><div>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2020 21:26<br></div><div>An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org><br></div><div>Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - give box<br></div><div><br></div><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box<br></div><div><br></div><div>A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in<br></div><div>the sense of free sharing.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Hi<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your inputs to improve this documentation and make it easy to<br></div><div>understand what this tag is all about. I have removed all references and<br></div><div>notes to give away shops, because those are not helpful for a clear<br></div><div>specification of this tag.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the hint with the hiker boxes and the other type of boxes. Good<br></div><div>to see that there are similar projects all over the world. I have included a<br></div><div>section with suggestions on how this boxtypes could be handled with existing<br></div><div>tags (the goods tag is already taken). I want this tag to be more specific<br></div><div>then the reuse tag. I do not want to cover all existing variations with it.<br></div><div>IMO someone like food boxes for example deserve their own tag.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar.pel@outlook.com><br></div><div>Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Januar 2020 13:04<br></div><div>An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org><br></div><div>Betreff: AW: Feature Proposal - RFC - give box<br></div><div><br></div><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box<br></div><div><br></div><div>A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the<br></div><div>sense of free sharing.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Many thanks for your helpful Feedback and your support. :D<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have updated the proposed.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I like the idea of using the shop=charity icon. Maybe the icon could be a<br></div><div>combination of the shop=charity icon and the shop=gift icon.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I change the tag name to give_box.<br></div><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box<br></div><div>Because the name Givebox is used by a website that provides fundraising<br></div><div>tools.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The naming was the difficult part. Why am I for give_box:<br></div><div><br></div><div>+ Give box is already a known concept in Europa with a big community.<br></div><div>+ I think "gift box" would be a very good name to describes the idea of this<br></div><div>facility. As a self organized solidarity space of free giving/donating and<br></div><div>free taking/reusing. The name "Give box" is similar.<br></div><div>+ Give box is not overused for other things found in the internet, eg.<br></div><div>internet modems.<br></div><div><br></div><div>"reuse" is to generic, eg. someone can tag a fridge with amenity=reuse and<br></div><div>reuse=fridge, to document a place to share food. But I think this kind of<br></div><div>facility deserves its own tag.<br></div><div>I think the tag "reuse" is currently only used because there is no other tag<br></div><div>for this kind of facility.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Give boxes are some kind of public storage room/space in the sense of giving<br></div><div>and reuse. I think the "free store" (German "Umsonstladen") in Germany is<br></div><div>more a give box as a store. As I read, even the shelf's in the "free store"<br></div><div>("Umsonstladen") are brought by the community, that's more something like a<br></div><div>public storage room. In a store I would except employees who eg. place the<br></div><div>items on the shelves. That's way a give box is not a shop=charity or<br></div><div>shop=second_hand. The idea and organization behind a "free store" (German<br></div><div>"Umsonstladen") and "Give box" are the same, they differ only in the storage<br></div><div>space size. A shack can also be named as a store. This makes a clear<br></div><div>distinction difficult. As abstraction for OSM, I think we can use the same<br></div><div>tag.<br></div><div><br></div><div>free_box would be my second choice. I would like to solve it democratically.<br></div><div>In two weeks I would like to vote on give_box. If you prefer free_box then<br></div><div>vote against it and write it in the comment of the vote. Then I change it<br></div><div>and do a second vote for free_box.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar.pel@outlook.com><br></div><div>Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2020 23:41<br></div><div>An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org><br></div><div>Betreff: Feature Proposal - RFC - Givebox<br></div><div><br></div><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Givebox<br></div><div><br></div><div>A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the<br></div><div>sense of free sharing.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Hi<br></div><div><br></div><div>Based on the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reuse and<br></div><div>the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpublic_bookcase tag I<br></div><div>describe a tag for facilities similar to public bookcases but with all kinds<br></div><div>of (none food) goods.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Tagging mailing list<br></div><div>Tagging@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div> </body>
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