<div dir="ltr">What I've been wondering with regard to this whole topic is whether you would also need to add an entry for who can remove the bollard?<div><br></div><div>Would that be covered by access=xxx ?</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 08:10, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<pre>bollard=unremovable for fixed bollards sounds good to me.
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<pre>My spelling check does not like "unremovable" but instead suggests
"irremovable." However, if I want to be nit-picky, all bollards are
ultimately removable, so maybe more appropriate values would be
"retractable" and "non-retractable."
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<pre>Around here, many removable bollards are removed by unlocking a lock
near the ground and lifting them out manually - I'm not sure if I
would describe that as "retractable".
Others are unlocked and then can be put flat against the ground,
that's covered by "hinged" I guess but only 3 uses worldwide...
perhaps covered by "foldable" with 62 uses.
"Fixed" does sound to me more straightforward than "unremovable" though.</pre>
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<pre>I too prefer 'fixed'.</pre>
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<pre>Foldable, is also in some sense irremovable/unremovable (spell check objects) where as I think 'fixed' is a better description as it implies not foldable, removeable nor lowerable.
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<pre>So I would have 4 things to describe bollard status of permanency;</pre>
<pre>fixed</pre>
<pre>foldable</pre>
<pre>removable</pre>
<pre>lowerable</pre>
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<pre>I note there are at lest 3 keys used;</pre>
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<pre>bollard:type ... looks like it is used to describe the structure ... and also the permanency
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<pre>bollard_type similar to bollard:type</pre>
<pre>bollard_crossing ... I have no idea.</pre>
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<pre>None of these have a wiki!</pre>
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<pre>Suggest that a descriptive key name be used!!! The word 'type' has no information.
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<pre>bollard_permanency=*???
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<pre>And make a wiki entry for it please.
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<pre>If you want, then another key so the above does not get polluted?
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<pre>bollard_structure=block/post/*
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