<div dir="ltr">I think a warning sign is legally required in Nederland. I don't think it's very useful to register the absence or presence of mandatory warning signs in OSM. If it is not there, report it to whoever is supposed to maintain or enforce it. If you want to register incidents to make a stand, an ushahidi-type of register is better I think.<div><br></div><div>For the cams themselves I see a use case, but the presence or absence of a sign does not seem relevant to me. </div><div><br></div><div>The overall camera situation is very dynamic, so I do see a problem with coverage, quality, maintenance and actuality.</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Best, Peter Elderson</div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op wo 19 feb. 2020 om 12:54 schreef John Sturdy <<a href="mailto:jcg.sturdy@gmail.com">jcg.sturdy@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">On the ones I've noticed in Cambridge, they are either on the lower part of the pole supporting the camera, or, for building-mounted cameras, on the wall below the camera. (The cameras are well above head height, and notices on them would not be readable unless very large.)<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:48 AM Jez Nicholson <<a href="mailto:jez.nicholson@gmail.com" target="_blank">jez.nicholson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">In general, are these signs physically on the camera, or are they in the vicinity? If so, should they be tagged objects in their own account?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, 10:54 John Sturdy, <<a href="mailto:jcg.sturdy@gmail.com" target="_blank">jcg.sturdy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Whatever the concensus in another discussion was, I think that double negatives will risk confusion, and that *:signed=yes and *:signed=no seems to be a reasonable proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>I have noticed that some but not all of the surveillance cameras (city council, I believe) in Cambridge (UK) have signs.</div><div><br></div><div>__John<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 10:13 AM marc marc <<a href="mailto:marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Le 19.02.20 à 04:29, Victor/tuxayo a écrit :<br>
> Coincidentally there was a recent discussion[2] about these signs in the<br>
> french mailing list (talk-fr) which lead to adding the following section<br>
> in the page<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made=surveillance" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made=surveillance</a><br>
<br>
I warn that this addition does not reflect the discussion that took<br>
place on talk-fr, but is "self-declared as consensus"<br>
more than half of the opinions are that a regulatory sign of this kind<br>
is not tourist information (imho I think it is closer to a sign that<br>
announces a pedestrian crossing or a maxspeed zone)<br>
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