<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hello, </div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going to amend the final voted tag pair to :</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">drinking_water:<span class="gmail-il">refill</span>=yes/drinking_water:<span class="gmail-il">refill</span>=no <br></div><span class="gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><div>drinking_water:<span class="gmail-il">refill</span>:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3; </div><div><br></div><div>Can someone please guide me on the below. I appreciate your advice. I would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation. </div><div><br></div><div>1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions. </div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second one for "drinking_water:<span class="gmail-il">refill</span>:network" or include it on the primary page ?)</div><div><br></div><div>3. I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come after completion of 1 + 2.</div><div><li style="margin-left:15px;margin-bottom:0.1em">Add a link back to the proposal by using the <i>statuslink</i> parameter of the feature template.</li><li style="margin-left:15px;margin-bottom:0.1em">Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link" title="Template:Approved feature link" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration-line:none;background:none">Template:Approved feature link</a>.</li><li style="margin-left:15px;margin-bottom:0.1em">Archive the proposal using <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal" title="Template:Archived proposal" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration-line:none;background:none">Template:Archived proposal</a>.</li></div></span></div><div><br></div>Best regards,<div><br></div><div>Stuart </div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hello,</span><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the tag pair as per the suggestion from </span>Kovposch for the final write-up. </div><div><br></div><div>drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no <br></div><div>drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3; <font color="#500050" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></font></div><div><br></div><div>instead of : </div><div><br></div><div><div>drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no</div><div>drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3; <br></div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small change ? I don't mind. </div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Stuart <br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Again,</div><div><br></div><div>In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is worth discussing the suggestion of
Kovposch to make refill a namespace and use the word network. </div><div><br></div><div>This would change the second tag of the tag pair to </div><div>drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3; <br></div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network" clearer than "scheme".</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Stuart </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear All,<div><br></div><div>The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions. Please note, that to be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is evident so that the tag is verifiable. </div><div><br></div><div>The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which is common with other tags. </div><div><br></div><div><ul style="margin:0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em;padding:0px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><tt dir="ltr" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:1em;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1" title="Key:drinking water:refill (page does not exist)" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(165,88,88);background:none" target="_blank">drinking_water:refill</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dyes&action=edit&redlink=1" title="Tag:drinking water:refill=yes (page does not exist)" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(165,88,88);background:none" target="_blank">yes</a></tt>/<tt dir="ltr" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:1em;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1" title="Key:drinking water:refill (page does not exist)" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(165,88,88);background:none" target="_blank">drinking_water:refill</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1" title="Tag:drinking water:refill=no (page does not exist)" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(165,88,88);background:none" target="_blank">no</a></tt></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><tt dir="ltr" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:1em;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill_scheme&action=edit&redlink=1" title="Key:drinking water:refill scheme (page does not exist)" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(165,88,88);background:none" target="_blank">drinking_water:refill_scheme</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1" title="Tag:drinking water:refill scheme=scheme-name (page does not exist)" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(165,88,88);background:none" target="_blank">scheme-name</a>1;</tt>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1" title="Tag:drinking water:refill scheme=scheme-name (page does not exist)" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(165,88,88);background:none" target="_blank">scheme-name</a>2;scheme-name3; </li></ul><div><br></div><div>Can someone please guide me on next steps ? </div><div><br></div><div><ul style="margin:0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em;padding:0px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Create the permanent feature description page:</li></ul><dl style="margin-top:0.2em;margin-bottom:0.5em;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"><dd style="margin-left:1.6em;margin-bottom:0.1em;margin-right:0px"><ul style="margin:0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em;padding:0px"><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features_template" title="Category:Features template" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none" target="_blank">features template</a> (depending on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. Follow the standard set by the <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" title="Key:highway" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none" target="_blank">Key:highway</a> key and its values.</li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Add a link back to the proposal by using the <i>statuslink</i> parameter of the feature template.</li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link" title="Template:Approved feature link" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none" target="_blank">Template:Approved feature link</a>.</li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Archive the proposal using <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal" title="Template:Archived proposal" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none" target="_blank">Template:Archived proposal</a>.</li></ul><div><br></div></dd></dl></div><div><p style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">Best regards,<br></p></div></div><div><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">Stuart </span></font></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:43, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Joseph,</div><div><br></div><div>Understood.</div><div><br></div><div>I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the vote finishes tomorrow. </div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Stuart </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> For 2) What is the best way to proceed?<br>
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Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.<br>
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- Joseph Eisenberg<br>
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On 2/17/20, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Tomorrow is the last day of voting. The proposal has positive support ..<br>
> 10 + and 2 Abs<br>
><br>
> There are two comments which are worth noting :<br>
><br>
> 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited scheme<br>
> names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess there<br>
> are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final vote to<br>
> take this into consideration.<br>
><br>
> 2. Kovposch<br>
> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch&action=edit&redlink=1</a>><br>
> suggested<br>
> making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to refill:network.<br>
> Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its more<br>
> generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...<br>
><br>
> For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to just<br>
> change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
> Stuart<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <<br>
> <a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Martin,<br>
>><br>
>> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for<br>
>> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Stuart<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map<br>
>>>> whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie<br>
>>>> paying<br>
>>>> or non-paying customer).<br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a<br>
>>> "drinking<br>
>>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.<br>
>>> Like in the linked photo above:<br>
>>> <a href="https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers<br>
>>> Martin<br>
>>><br>
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