<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Dear All,<div><br></div><div>The wiki for key:drinking_water:refill has been created and has had already it's first improvements ! Thanks Joseph. </div><div><br></div><div>Joseph, I noticed you removed "ways" as a preferred database entry to be tagged. What is the difference between a closed way and an area ? </div><div><br></div><div>The three buildings which are currently tagged as drinking_water:refill = yes are currently returned by the overpass query on </div><div> way["drinking_water:refill"="yes"] (` + boxString +`); </div><div><br></div><div>_____________________________________________________________________________________</div><div><br></div><div>Also, we just launched the phase 2 of our 100% open data project.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyone who wants stickers for cafés for this anti-plastic program, please send me an email direct with your address and the number of stickers you want. </div><div><br></div><div>See the post below for those who have FB. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/EuropeanWaterProject/posts/145583536923046">https://www.facebook.com/EuropeanWaterProject/posts/145583536923046</a> </div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Stuart </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 02:06, Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was voted ?<br>
<br>
That's not necessary. It's fine to keep the proposal name as it is.<br>
<br>
> 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ?<br>
<br>
Login to the wiki, then go to<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water:refill" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water:refill</a> and<br>
click "create this page".<br>
<br>
Or you can use this direct link:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit</a><br>
<br>
> should I create a second one for "drinking_water:refill:network"<br>
<br>
You can include it on the main tag page if that is easier.<br>
<br>
But if you have time it is fine to make a specific page:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill:network&action=edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill:network&action=edit</a><br>
<br>
To make the page, try copying the source text from a similar property<br>
page, and pasting it,<br>
<br>
For example copy the text from:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water&action=edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water&action=edit</a><br>
<br>
Then edit it to match your new proposal.<br>
<br>
- Joseph Eisenberg<br>
<br>
On 2/26/20, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going<br>
> to amend the final voted tag pair to :<br>
><br>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no<br>
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;<br>
><br>
> Can someone please guide me on the below. I appreciate your advice. I<br>
> would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.<br>
><br>
> 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was<br>
> voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water</a><br>
><br>
> 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second<br>
> one for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page<br>
> ?)<br>
><br>
> 3. I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come<br>
> after completion of 1 + 2.<br>
> - Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter of<br>
> the feature template.<br>
> - Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using<br>
> Template:Approved<br>
> feature link<br>
> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link</a>>.<br>
> - Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal<br>
> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal</a>>.<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
> Stuart<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <<br>
> <a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hello,<br>
>><br>
>> As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the<br>
>> tag pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.<br>
>><br>
>> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no<br>
>> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> instead of :<br>
>><br>
>> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no<br>
>> drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;<br>
>><br>
>> Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small<br>
>> change ? I don't mind.<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Stuart<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi Again,<br>
>>><br>
>>> In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it<br>
>>> is<br>
>>> worth discussing the suggestion of Kovposch to make refill a namespace<br>
>>> and<br>
>>> use the word network.<br>
>>><br>
>>> This would change the second tag of the tag pair to<br>
>>> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace<br>
>>> convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word<br>
>>> "network"<br>
>>> clearer than "scheme".<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best regards,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Stuart<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Dear All,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill<br>
>>>> water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent<br>
>>>> passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions. Please note, that<br>
>>>> to<br>
>>>> be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is<br>
>>>> evident so that the tag is verifiable.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear<br>
>>>> preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons -<br>
>>>> which<br>
>>>> is common with other tags.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> - drinking_water:refill<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1</a>><br>
>>>> =yes<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dyes&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dyes&action=edit&redlink=1</a>><br>
>>>> /drinking_water:refill<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1</a>><br>
>>>> =no<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1</a>><br>
>>>> - drinking_water:refill_scheme<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill_scheme&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill_scheme&action=edit&redlink=1</a>><br>
>>>> =scheme-name<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1</a>><br>
>>>> 1; scheme-name<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1</a>><br>
>>>> 2;scheme-name3;<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Can someone please guide me on next steps ?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> - Create the permanent feature description page:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> - A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map<br>
>>>> features<br>
>>>> template<br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features_template" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features_template</a>><br>
>>>> (depending<br>
>>>> on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied.<br>
>>>> Follow<br>
>>>> the standard set by the Key:highway<br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway</a>> key and its<br>
>>>> values.<br>
>>>> - Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink*<br>
>>>> parameter<br>
>>>> of the feature template.<br>
>>>> - Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page<br>
>>>> using Template:Approved feature link<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link</a>>.<br>
>>>> - Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal<br>
>>>> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal</a>>.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Stuart<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:43, European Water Project <<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi Joseph,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Understood.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the<br>
>>>>> vote finishes tomorrow.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Stuart<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg <<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed?<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> - Joseph Eisenberg<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On 2/17/20, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> > Tomorrow is the last day of voting. The proposal has positive<br>
>>>>>> support ..<br>
>>>>>> > 10 + and 2 Abs<br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> > There are two comments which are worth noting :<br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> > 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited<br>
>>>>>> scheme<br>
>>>>>> > names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple.<br>
>>>>>> > Untess<br>
>>>>>> there<br>
>>>>>> > are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final<br>
>>>>>> vote to<br>
>>>>>> > take this into consideration.<br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> > 2. Kovposch<br>
>>>>>> > <<br>
>>>>>> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch&action=edit&redlink=1</a><br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> > suggested<br>
>>>>>> > making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to<br>
>>>>>> refill:network.<br>
>>>>>> > Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its<br>
>>>>>> more<br>
>>>>>> > generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...<br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to<br>
>>>>>> > just<br>
>>>>>> > change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.<br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> > Best regards,<br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> > Stuart<br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <<br>
>>>>>> > <a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>> >> Hi Martin,<br>
>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>> >> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill<br>
>>>>>> >> for<br>
>>>>>> >> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.<br>
>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>> >> Best regards,<br>
>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>> >> Stuart<br>
>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>> >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer<br>
>>>>>> >> <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>> >> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>> >>><br>
>>>>>> >>><br>
>>>>>> >>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project<br>
>>>>>> >>> <<br>
>>>>>> >>> <a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>> >>><br>
>>>>>> >>>> I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively<br>
>>>>>> >>>> map<br>
>>>>>> >>>> whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone<br>
>>>>>> (ie<br>
>>>>>> >>>> paying<br>
>>>>>> >>>> or non-paying customer).<br>
>>>>>> >>>><br>
>>>>>> >>><br>
>>>>>> >>><br>
>>>>>> >>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a<br>
>>>>>> >>> "drinking<br>
>>>>>> >>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more<br>
>>>>>> >>> explanation.<br>
>>>>>> >>> Like in the linked photo above:<br>
>>>>>> >>><br>
>>>>>> <a href="https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html</a><br>
>>>>>> >>><br>
>>>>>> >>> Cheers<br>
>>>>>> >>> Martin<br>
>>>>>> >>><br>
>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>>>>>> >>><br>
>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>><br>
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