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<p class="MsoNormal">For step 3.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Replace the entire content/source from the «Proposed features/Free Water» with this snippet:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">{{Approved feature link|link=Key:drinking_water:refill|name=Free Water}}</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">{{Archived proposal|archive_id=1962961}}</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">»</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The archive_id comes from the «View history» page by clicking the last / newest entry and coping the value from the oldid parameter in the url.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Markus<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0cm"><b>Von: </b><a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com">European Water Project</a><br>
<b>Gesendet: </b>Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 12:15<br>
<b>An: </b><a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tag discussion, strategy and related tools</a><br>
<b>Betreff: </b>Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Hello, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going to amend the final voted tag pair to :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">drinking_water:<span class="gmail-il">refill</span>=yes/drinking_water:<span class="gmail-il">refill</span>=no <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050">Can someone please guide me on the below. I appreciate your advice. I would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050">1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050">2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second one for "drinking_water:<span class="gmail-il">refill</span>:network" or include it on the primary page ?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050">3. I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come after completion of 1 + 2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#500050">·</span><span style="color:#500050"> Add a link back to the proposal by using the <i>statuslink</i> parameter of the feature template.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#500050">·</span><span style="color:#500050"> Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link" target="_blank" title="Template:Approved feature link"><span style="color:#0B0080">Template:Approved
feature link</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#500050">·</span><span style="color:#500050"> Archive the proposal using <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal" target="_blank" title="Template:Archived proposal"><span style="color:#0B0080">Template:Archived
proposal</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Stuart <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the tag pair as per the suggestion from </span>Kovposch for the final write-up. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3; <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">instead of : <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small change ? I don't mind. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Stuart <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Again,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is worth discussing the suggestion of Kovposch to make refill a namespace and use the word network. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This would change the second tag of the tag pair to <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3; <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network" clearer than "scheme".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Stuart <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear All, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions. Please note, that to be tagged drinking_water:refill
= yes, it is imperative that a sign is evident so that the tag is verifiable. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which is common with other tags. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:#A55858">scheme-name</span></a>2;scheme-name3; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can someone please guide me on next steps ? <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Create the permanent feature description page:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features_template" target="_blank" title="Category:Features template"><span style="color:#0B0080">features
template</span></a> (depending on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. Follow the standard set by the <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" target="_blank" title="Key:highway"><span style="color:#0B0080">Key:highway</span></a> key
and its values.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Add a link back to the proposal by using the <i>statuslink</i> parameter of the feature template.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link" target="_blank" title="Template:Approved feature link"><span style="color:#0B0080">Template:Approved
feature link</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Archive the proposal using <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal" target="_blank" title="Template:Archived proposal"><span style="color:#0B0080">Template:Archived
proposal</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:19.2pt">On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:43, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:19.2pt">Understood.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:19.2pt">I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the vote finishes tomorrow. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:19.2pt">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:19.2pt">On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:43.2pt">> For 2) What is the best way to proceed?<br>
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Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.<br>
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- Joseph Eisenberg<br>
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On 2/17/20, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Tomorrow is the last day of voting. The proposal has positive support ..<br>
> 10 + and 2 Abs<br>
><br>
> There are two comments which are worth noting :<br>
><br>
> 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited scheme<br>
> names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess there<br>
> are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final vote to<br>
> take this into consideration.<br>
><br>
> 2. Kovposch<br>
> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch&action=edit&redlink=1" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch&action=edit&redlink=1</a>><br>
> suggested<br>
> making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to refill:network.<br>
> Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its more<br>
> generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...<br>
><br>
> For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to just<br>
> change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
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> Stuart<br>
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> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <<br>
> <a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Hi Martin,<br>
>><br>
>> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for<br>
>> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Stuart<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map<br>
>>>> whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie<br>
>>>> paying<br>
>>>> or non-paying customer).<br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a<br>
>>> "drinking<br>
>>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.<br>
>>> Like in the linked photo above:<br>
>>> <a href="https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html" target="_blank">
https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers<br>
>>> Martin<br>
>>><br>
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