<div dir="ltr"><div>There is another aspect:</div><div>The wiki page highway=cycleway states also</div><div>"
Tagging a way with <tt dir="ltr" class="gmail-mw-content-ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" title="Key:highway">highway</a>=<a class="gmail-mw-selflink gmail-selflink">cycleway</a></tt> implies that the route is designated for bicycles."</div><div>This means it implies, at least in Italy and Germany, that this is equivalent to this sign, which in turn implies that, the use of this way is mandatory for cyclists, if the cycleway accompanies a road.</div><div>Obviously this concept does not apply to a MTB-only paths.</div><div>I sympathise with the MTB fraction in OSM, but I strongly suggest that MTB-only paths be tagged as highway=path plus suitable MTB tagging and cycleways remain cycleways that are suitable for (nearly) all bicycles (the "nearly" regards in particular wider bicycles).<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 12:19, Volker Schmidt <<a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com">voschix@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">But highway=path is for unspecified, mixed use or generic paths. A designated mountain bike track is not that, it's a path specifically for bicycles.<div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>If mountain bike tracks should be tagged as highway=path, then the definition of path needs to be changed to not be an unspecified or mixed use path. </div></div></div></blockquote><div>No.</div><div>If the MTB path is not open to pedestrians, you add foot=no, and possibly horse=no, in addition to your mtb:scale tags<br></div><div><br></div><div>Sure, you could say if you have a cycleway with smoothness=horrible and tracktype=grade5 and foot=no and horse=no you have the same thing, but ther, <br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Please keep paths that can only be used by MTB clearly different from cycleways that can be used non-MTB bicycles.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I always assumed that's what the mtb:*=* tags were for, but smoothness= is also suitable here since it even lists specific types of bicycles which would be suitable <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness</a></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Yes, the mtb: tags would in theory be able to convert als a cycleway in an MTB track - see above, but it is much simpler to keep the meaning that a cycleway is a cycleway and implies that you can use it with a normal bicycle.</div><div> <br></div></div></div>
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