<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 21:35, Volker Schmidt <<a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com">voschix@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>There is another aspect:</div><div>The wiki page highway=cycleway states also</div><div>"
Tagging a way with <tt dir="ltr" style="background:none 0% 0% repeat scroll rgb(238,238,255);font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" title="Key:highway" target="_blank">highway</a>=<a>cycleway</a></tt> implies that the route is designated for bicycles."</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Formal mountain bike tracks are designated bicycle routes.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>This means it implies, at least in Italy and Germany, that this is equivalent to this sign, which in turn implies that, the use of this way is mandatory for cyclists, if the cycleway accompanies a road.</div><div>Obviously this concept does not apply to a MTB-only paths.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I believe the <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath</a> tag applies in that case.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I sympathise with the MTB fraction in OSM, but I strongly suggest that MTB-only paths be tagged as highway=path plus suitable MTB tagging and cycleways remain cycleways that are suitable for (nearly) all bicycles (the "nearly" regards in particular wider bicycles).<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That would be in contrast to how the highway tag generally works, generally highway= is used for the classification not suitability by vehicle class. So it's common in some parts of the world to have have highway=primary (because it's an important road linking major centers) but only accessible by 4wd vehicles. The same way highway=footway might have a sac_scale=demanding_mountain_hiking and won't be a stroll in the park.</div></div></div>