<div dir="ltr">Dear Manon,<div><br></div><div>This new proposal is a big improvement over the previous proposal and properly addresses the many objections to place=refugee_site. </div><div><br></div><div>A flexible namespace with segregated data related to refugee sites will allow ongoing refugee site data maintenance by facilitating operator source data comparison in addition to easy refugee site data extraction (objective #3). </div><div><br></div><div>I am supportive. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Stuart </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 16:54, Manon Viou <<a href="mailto:m_viou@cartong.org" target="_blank">m_viou@cartong.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Dear All,</span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Discussions continue regarding how to best tag places sheltering refugees and/or internally displaced persons.</span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Before jumping into the discussion regarding the pros and cons of the alternative solutions debated so far, I want to recap our objectives. </span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><strong><u>Objectives :</u></strong></span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> - develop a general set of tags which satisfy all the tagging requirements of the many colors and flavors of refugee sites which exist in the world. </span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> - develop tags which allow one to describe the features of the refugee site element, such as the "operator" (eg.UNHCR) , the type of population (refugee_only/internally_displaced), if the site is formal or informal, the refugee population, etc ..</span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> - develop tags which allow easy refugee site data extraction from the OpenStreetMap database using Overpass by anyone who wants to display refugee sites on a map. </span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">We welcome all constructive suggestions which help meet these goals. If anyone has any suggestions for improvements of the objectives, we welcome those too. </span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><strong><u>State of current discussions:</u></strong></span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">In our second feature proposal we first tried to better defend the use of the key:place, but it seems that a majority of people are opposed to the use of it.</span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">We have recently received two suggestions which we have combined below in a manner which we believe could meet the stated objectives : </span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><strong>Key refugee_site for large facilities </strong></span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">The key refugee_site=yes is added to a place tag.</span>
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<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" target="_blank">place</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dneighbourhood" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" target="_blank">neighbourhood</a>/<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dsuburb" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" target="_blank">suburb</a>/<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dvillage" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" target="_blank">village</a>/<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dtown" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" target="_blank">town</a></span></li>
<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">+ landuse=residential</span></li>
<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">+ refugee_site=yes.</span></li>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">The tag refugee_site=yes will allows to easily add secondary optional information to be able to details the typology of the camps and other valuable information like:</span>
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<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">+ refugee_site:for = internally_displaced/refugee_only/mixed </span></li>
<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">+ refugee_site:operator = UNHCR/Red Cross/etc. </span></li>
<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">+ refugee_site:duration = permanent/temporary </span></li>
<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">+ refugee_site:population = 500,000</span></li>
<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">+ refugee_site:structure=shelters/tents/multifunctional/mixed</span></li>
<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">+ refugee_site:status=formal/informal</span></li>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><strong>Key Amenity=social_facility for small facilities [a majority agreed that social_facility is not appropriate for large site]</strong></span>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">For small facilities (less than 5 buildings) also sheltering refugee (for instance: refugee centers, accommodation center, care and hosting center), that are not exactly what we can call refugee site, use the existing tag:</span>
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<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">amenity=social_facility</span></li>
<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">+ social_facility=shelter</span></li>
<li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">+ social_facility:for= internally_displaced/refugee </span></li>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thank you for your consideration, </span>
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