<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 1:30 AM Volker Schmidt <<a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com">voschix@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>We do not need a new highway tag value "singletrack".<br></div></div></blockquote><div>Was only making a suggestion to kick the discussion around to what we are actually mapping, because I dislike leisure=track and highway=cycleway.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>I independently read the Wikipedia article,</div></div></blockquote><div>You read more than me, I just know singletrack from walking, running, riding and building them.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>and had come to the conclusion that a singletrack is clearly</div><div>highway=path; surface=unpaved; width=*; mtb:scale=*; mtb:scale:uphill=*; mtb:scale:downhill=* and any other tag form the wiki page <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountain_biking" target="_blank">Mountain biking</a></div></div></blockquote><div>Yep agreed, that is what I've been using for years as documented on the wiki. Singletrack is so varied that the highway=path definition of "A non-specific path" does actually do a good job at describing it. Every now and then I find some highway=path that should be highway=track but it usually was added nearly a decade ago so people are doing better today.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>It does not need foot=yes and bicycle=yes, as this is implicit. <br></div><div>A highway=path is, according the wiki, a "singletrack" ("If a path is wide enough for 4-wheel-vehicles (wider than 2 m), and it
is not legally signposted or otherwise only allowed for pedestrians,
cyclists or horseriders, it is often better tagged as a <tt dir="ltr" style="background:none 0% 0% repeat scroll rgb(238,238,255);font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" title="Key:highway" target="_blank">highway</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack" title="Tag:highway=track" target="_blank">track</a></tt> or <tt dir="ltr" style="background:none 0% 0% repeat scroll rgb(238,238,255);font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" title="Key:highway" target="_blank">highway</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservice" title="Tag:highway=service" target="_blank">service</a></tt>")</div><div>It is not different from any mountain trail here. There is no preference for MTBs according Wikipedia. It is shared with hikers.</div></div></blockquote><div>Agreed, I made no indication it was different in Australia, just that no one calls them cycleways (or cycle paths) here, also fairly rare to have MTB-only trails on public land here too.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>And the doubletrack shown on the same page is identical with any run-of-the-mill forest road here in Europe, which we usually tag as highway=track. And unfortunately I would call this specific one a single-track forest road. :-(</div></div></blockquote><div>Yep, highway=track for that one. Oh, but there are two tracks from left and right tyres :|</div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Jono</div></div>