<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Thank you for the wonderful insights. Currently, what we are tagging is the hospital. So for example, Manila Hospital (tagged as a hospital) we add the tags like disease:hiv=yes. say that it is a treatment facility and it dispenses hiv medicine. But what i am having difficulty is that hiv facility is treated like a department. You can put in the email address and contact details of the hospital but if I add the contact details of the Hiv facility it then gets mixed with the hospital details. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">In this case A hospital can have a clinic specifically for HIV, and a clinic can also have a small office for HIV patients (not specifically another clinic).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Thanks Joseph and Warin most. of the cases are really similar here. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">For treatment hubs - yes this is for inpatients similarly for the one you described. This is are mostly hospitals but in some cases clinics. My problem here is that a big hospital has alot of contact details for the hospital so the information and contact details for the hiv treatment facility are mixed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">For hiv care - yes it is a bit of all a combination. I cant tagged it as a pharmacy as it only releases specific anti-retroviral drugs.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br>Currently We are using this tagging system as assisted by the local OSM community in the Philippines.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIV_Facilities_Tagging_(MapBeks)">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIV_Facilities_Tagging_(MapBeks)</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">But I feel the feature gets overshadowed by the hospital/clinic/social facility/office tag. Your thoughts would be very helpful. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 3:58 PM Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> Treatment hubs (in patient + dispensaries+ testing):<br>
<br>
Are you sure you mean "inpatient?" An "inpatient" facility, in<br>
American English, is a hospital which has beds where patients are<br>
cared for overnight.<br>
<br>
This would be mapped as amenity=hospital for the main feature, most likely.<br>
<br>
> primary hiv care (dispensaries+testing)<br>
<br>
You don't mention care by a nurse or physician, but I assume this is<br>
an amenity=clinic (with physicians and nurses) which also has an<br>
amenity=pharmacy in the same building. There might also be a<br>
healthcare=laboratory at the location.<br>
<br>
> testing centers/clinics (testing only)<br>
<br>
Is this a doctor's office, or is there just a nurse, or just a<br>
laboratory technician who can draw blood for the test? If there is a<br>
doctor, it might be an amenity=doctors. If there is just a laboratory<br>
for testing, that would be a healthcare=laboratory facility.<br>
<br>
For the speciality, it's possible to use something like<br>
healthcare:speciality=hiv if that's the only thing that the clinic<br>
treats.<br>
<br>
But here in Indonesia and back in the USA most clinics that treat HIV<br>
also offer treatment for other infectious conditions, so a different<br>
specialty like healthcare:speciality=infectious_diseases would usually<br>
be more correct.<br>
<br>
I see that in the Phillipines the tag "disease:hiv=yes" has been used:<br>
<a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/disease%3Ahiv#map" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/disease%3Ahiv#map</a><br>
<br>
In Indonesia and the USA you can get an HIV test at just about any<br>
healthcare=laboratory and larger clinics and all hospitals. But if you<br>
can only get this done at some specialized places in the Phillipines,<br>
you could consider adding a tag like "hiv_testing=yes/no" for clinics,<br>
doctor's offices, and laboratories.<br>
<br>
Similarly, in the USA it's normal to be able to get hiv medications<br>
from standard pharmacies. But if they are only available from a few<br>
pharmacies in your country, you could add a tag like<br>
"hiv_medication=yes/no" to an "amenity=pharmacy" facility.<br>
<br>
It looks like "medical_service:antiretroviral_therapy=yes" has been<br>
used in combination. That seems overlong and complex, so it would not<br>
have been my first choice:<br>
<a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/medical_service%3Aantiretroviral_therapy" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/medical_service%3Aantiretroviral_therapy</a><br>
<br>
-- Joseph Eisenberg<br>
<br>
On 4/13/20, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> At present there is the key healtcare.<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:healthcare" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:healthcare</a><br>
><br>
> Some initial thoughts?<br>
><br>
> healthcare:specialty=HIV_testing<br>
><br>
> healthcare:specialty=HIV_treatment<br>
><br>
> HIV dispensary ... would be a pharmacy?<br>
><br>
> amenity <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity</a>>=pharmacy and<br>
> dispensing <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:dispensing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:dispensing</a>>=HIV<br>
><br>
> ???Hopefully there will be better ideas.<br>
><br>
> On 13/4/20 4:32 pm, Mikko Tamura wrote:<br>
>> Good day, fellow OSM tagging experts. I would like to ask assistance<br>
>> in creating a tag for HIV facilities. We have created a tagging system<br>
>> for hiv facilities here in the Philippines but it seems to be too<br>
>> extensive. We would like it to be more simple. I hope you can help me<br>
>> with it. I am reading the wiki page and Im having a challenging time<br>
>> doing it.<br>
>><br>
>> Some background: We have 3 types of HIV facilities/clinics. Treatment<br>
>> hubs (in patient + dispensaries+ testing), primary hiv care<br>
>> (dispensaries+testing) and testing centers/clinics (testing only). We<br>
>> have started tagging hospitals which have this features and honestly I<br>
>> am guessing this would eventually get mixed up with the other tagging<br>
>> like the contact number of the hospital, etc. Hopefully, we can<br>
>> represent it with a node with basic details specifically for that<br>
>> clinic/department.<br>
>><br>
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