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<div>But I think in some cases it still wouldn't be clear, because what would be about mapping this then:</div>
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<div>Which was mentioned a few posts before? The traffic lights control the junction, but people might say that the same one single traffic light is controlling the pedestrian crossing and the junction...</div>
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<div>--Lukas</div>
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<div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 um 00:21 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Jarek Piórkowski" <jarek@piorkowski.ca><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <tagging@openstreetmap.org><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand</div>
<div>On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 10:00, <Lukas-458@web.de> wrote:<br/>
> So in which cases "highway=traffic_signals + crossing=traffic_signals on the same node" should be used? Only for the "crossing only-traffic lights" I mentioned?<br/>
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Yeah, personally I would agree with that. Only on<br/>
pedestrian/cycle-crossing-only traffic lights.<br/>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2771622922" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2771622922</a> as an example.<br/>
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I think that if you're going to the extent of mapping separate stop<br/>
lines on all ways leading into the intersection, you can also separate<br/>
the car stop line node from the pedestrian crossing node. (And if<br/>
you're not, highway=traffic_signals on the main intersection node<br/>
still works.) So don't use highway=traffic_signals +<br/>
crossing=traffic_signals, except for a pedestrian-crossing-only light.<br/>
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--Jarek<br/>
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