<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><br><br><div dir="ltr">sent from a phone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 18. Apr 2020, at 00:08, António Madeira <antoniomadeira@gmx.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">I know there are many ref tags that don't follow this procedure,
but if this is useful why not starting to adopt it for some
schemes like this one?</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div>because it leads to key bloat. It makes evaluation harder or more complicated if you have to cater for a lot of different keys which all basically are about the same thing: the ref that an operator has assigned to it<div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#0000ff">
It would turn the entire scheme more tight and organized, with a
more logical structured "tree".<br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div>it makes it much more tedious to type in, because it renders autocompletion less efficient. I hate to type long keys because they all start the same, particularly on mobile devices. It also makes things harder for preset development, it’s not something that could not be solved, but everybody with database columns for keys will hate a schema like this.</div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#0000ff">
Anyway, this will obviously have some resistance, but I think it
is well worth to debate about it.</font><br>
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heritage:xxx:criteria=* - This tag is for the
classification criteria used by the xxx operator. It
changes the previous <tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0%
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heritage:xxx:inscription_date=* - This tag is used for the
date the heritage was officially registered by xxx
operator. It changes the previous <tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0%
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<div>same comment as above for ref.<br>
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heritage:xxx:designation_title=* - This tag is used for
the heritage title (international or national). This is
new and is an attempt to circumvent the use of <tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat
scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6">protection_title=*</tt>
which is wrong in this context. <br>
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<div>why is protection title "wrong"?</div>
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heritage:xxx:criteria=* - This tag is for the
classification criteria used by the xxx operator. It
changes the previous <tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0%
0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><span>xxx</span>:<span>criteria</span>=*</tt><br>
heritage:xxx:inscription_date=* - This tag is used for the
date the heritage was officially registered by xxx
operator. It changes the previous <tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0%
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<div>same comment as above for ref.<br>
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heritage:xxx:designation_title=* - This tag is used for
the heritage title (international or national). This is
new and is an attempt to circumvent the use of <tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat
scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6">protection_title=*</tt>
which is wrong in this context. <br>
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heritage:xxx:criteria=* - This tag is for the
classification criteria used by the xxx operator. It
changes the previous <tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0%
0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><span>xxx</span>:<span>criteria</span>=*</tt><br>
heritage:xxx:inscription_date=* - This tag is used for the
date the heritage was officially registered by xxx
operator. It changes the previous <tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0%
0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><span>xxx</span>:<span>inscription_date</span>=*</tt></div>
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<div>same comment as above for ref.<br>
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heritage:xxx:designation_title=* - This tag is used for
the heritage title (international or national). This is
new and is an attempt to circumvent the use of <tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat
scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6">protection_title=*</tt>
which is wrong in this context. <br>
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As discussed in this thread before, the protection title tag was
created for natural areas. Unless an heritage site coincides with
a natural protected area, it's not correct to use that tag. Unless
we extend its scope for this scheme.<br>
<br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>heritage sites are already within the scheme, this was introduced with the protected area proposal and class 22 already covers heritage protection </div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area#Social-protected-area">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area#Social-protected-area</a></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers Martin </div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>