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<div>I created <br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhospital#Mapping_internal_hospital_structure">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhospital#Mapping_internal_hospital_structure</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Extending, review etc is welcomed.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Apr 13, 2020, 11:27 by rory@technomancy.org:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>I think this is a case of “Things within other things”. How do we map that? For the enclosing hospital, we know how to map that. But how do we map individual parts within it?<br></div><div><br></div><div>e.g. St. James' Hospital in Dublin (OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/32015912 ), the hospital has it's own phone number, `website` etc. Within that is a HIV (& STI) clinic http://guideclinic.ie/ It has it's own website, and a specific location. How should that be tagged?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Beumount Hospital ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22634348 ) has is mapped and tagged. The Infection Disease service ( http://www.beaumont.ie/index.jsp?p=105&n=227 ) is “located on the ground floor in St Johns ward”, and has a phone number & email address. How can we map this?<br></div><div><br></div><div>OSM could do much better for indoor mapping, and for shopping centres or train stations, that's easy. Add each `shop` or corridor. But what about a (sorta of) clinic within a larger OSM object?<br></div><div><br></div><div>On 13.04.20 10:48, Mikko Tamura wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>Thank you for the wonderful insights. Currently, what we are tagging is the hospital. So for example, Manila Hospital (tagged as a hospital) we add the tags like disease:hiv=yes. say that it is a treatment facility and it dispenses hiv medicine. But what i am having difficulty is that hiv facility is treated like a department. You can put in the email address and contact details of the hospital but if I add the contact details of the Hiv facility it then gets mixed with the hospital details.<br></div><div>In this case A hospital can have a clinic specifically for HIV, and a clinic can also have a small office for HIV patients (not specifically another clinic).<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks Joseph and Warin most. of the cases are really similar here.<br></div><div><br></div><div>For treatment hubs - yes this is for inpatients similarly for the one you described. This is are mostly hospitals but in some cases clinics. My problem here is that a big hospital has alot of contact details for the hospital so the information and contact details for the hiv treatment facility are mixed.<br></div><div><br></div><div>For hiv care - yes it is a bit of all a combination. I cant tagged it as a pharmacy as it only releases specific anti-retroviral drugs.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Currently We are using this tagging system as assisted by the local OSM community in the Philippines.<br></div><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIV_Facilities_Tagging_(MapBeks)<br></div><div><br></div><div>But I feel the feature gets overshadowed by the hospital/clinic/social facility/office tag. Your thoughts would be very helpful.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 3:58 PM Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com>> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div> > Treatment hubs (in patient + dispensaries+ testing):<br></div><div><br></div><div> Are you sure you mean "inpatient?" An "inpatient" facility, in<br></div><div> American English, is a hospital which has beds where patients are<br></div><div> cared for overnight.<br></div><div><br></div><div> This would be mapped as amenity=hospital for the main feature, most<br></div><div> likely.<br></div><div><br></div><div> > primary hiv care (dispensaries+testing)<br></div><div><br></div><div> You don't mention care by a nurse or physician, but I assume this is<br></div><div> an amenity=clinic (with physicians and nurses) which also has an<br></div><div> amenity=pharmacy in the same building. There might also be a<br></div><div> healthcare=laboratory at the location.<br></div><div><br></div><div> > testing centers/clinics (testing only)<br></div><div><br></div><div> Is this a doctor's office, or is there just a nurse, or just a<br></div><div> laboratory technician who can draw blood for the test? If there is a<br></div><div> doctor, it might be an amenity=doctors. If there is just a laboratory<br></div><div> for testing, that would be a healthcare=laboratory facility.<br></div><div><br></div><div> For the speciality, it's possible to use something like<br></div><div> healthcare:speciality=hiv if that's the only thing that the clinic<br></div><div> treats.<br></div><div><br></div><div> But here in Indonesia and back in the USA most clinics that treat HIV<br></div><div> also offer treatment for other infectious conditions, so a different<br></div><div> specialty like healthcare:speciality=infectious_diseases would usually<br></div><div> be more correct.<br></div><div><br></div><div> I see that in the Phillipines the tag "disease:hiv=yes" has been used:<br></div><div> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/disease%3Ahiv#map<br></div><div><br></div><div> In Indonesia and the USA you can get an HIV test at just about any<br></div><div> healthcare=laboratory and larger clinics and all hospitals. But if you<br></div><div> can only get this done at some specialized places in the Phillipines,<br></div><div> you could consider adding a tag like "hiv_testing=yes/no" for clinics,<br></div><div> doctor's offices, and laboratories.<br></div><div><br></div><div> Similarly, in the USA it's normal to be able to get hiv medications<br></div><div> from standard pharmacies. But if they are only available from a few<br></div><div> pharmacies in your country, you could add a tag like<br></div><div> "hiv_medication=yes/no" to an "amenity=pharmacy" facility.<br></div><div><br></div><div> It looks like "medical_service:antiretroviral_therapy=yes" has been<br></div><div> used in combination. That seems overlong and complex, so it would not<br></div><div> have been my first choice:<br></div><div> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/medical_service%3Aantiretroviral_therapy<br></div><div><br></div><div> -- Joseph Eisenberg<br></div><div><br></div><div> On 4/13/20, Warin <61sundowner@gmail.com<br></div><div> <mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com>> wrote:<br></div><div> > At present there is the key healtcare.<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:healthcare<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > Some initial thoughts?<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > healthcare:specialty=HIV_testing<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > healthcare:specialty=HIV_treatment<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > HIV dispensary ... would be a pharmacy?<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > amenity<br></div><div> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity>=pharmacy and<br></div><div> > dispensing <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:dispensing>=HIV<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > ???Hopefully there will be better ideas.<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > On 13/4/20 4:32 pm, Mikko Tamura wrote:<br></div><div> >> Good day, fellow OSM tagging experts. I would like to ask assistance<br></div><div> >> in creating a tag for HIV facilities. We have created a tagging<br></div><div> system<br></div><div> >> for hiv facilities here in the Philippines but it seems to be too<br></div><div> >> extensive. We would like it to be more simple. I hope you can<br></div><div> help me<br></div><div> >> with it. I am reading the wiki page and Im having a challenging time<br></div><div> >> doing it.<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> Some background: We have 3 types of HIV facilities/clinics.<br></div><div> Treatment<br></div><div> >> hubs (in patient + dispensaries+ testing), primary hiv care<br></div><div> >> (dispensaries+testing) and testing centers/clinics (testing<br></div><div> only). We<br></div><div> >> have started tagging hospitals which have this features and<br></div><div> honestly I<br></div><div> >> am guessing this would eventually get mixed up with the other<br></div><div> tagging<br></div><div> >> like the contact number of the hospital, etc. Hopefully, we can<br></div><div> >> represent it with a node with basic details specifically for that<br></div><div> >> clinic/department.<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> Hope someone can guide us and thank you in advance.<br></div><div> >> --<br></div><div> >> *<br></div><div> >> *<br></div><div> >> *<br></div><div> >> *<br></div><div> >> *MIKKO L. 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