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<div>+1 for highway=pedestrian + area=yes</div>
<div>That how we map a town square in France (and every where
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<p>To me highway=pedestrian is more for where for where foot traffic
passes rather than a place where people stop and meet. <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 29 avr. 2020 à 23:18,
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<div dir="ltr">I agree, the area in this spot (<a
href="https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA</a>)
is a moderly sized open area of bare earth,
with buildings on 3 sides and a paved streets on a long
side. It appears to be used for sports and recreation,
and for walking. I suspect it might be a "de facto"
leisure=pitch - in the USA it would be an "empty lot"
used for soccer/baseball/etc. It could also be a
highway=pedestrian + area=yes - an open pedestrian area
or "town square" - those are usually paved in some way
in developed countries, but that's not a requirement. It
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<div>There was not any formal discussion to deprecate
leisure=common, and mappers are certainly free to keep
using that tag. It was marked as deprecated by one wiki
user, about a year ago. </div>
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<div>But since the tag it is not well defined, it will be
hard for database users to interpret what it means.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at
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<div>Apr 29, 2020, 21:37 by <a
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<div>On 4/29/20 14:34, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:<br>
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<div>Here is a 360° picture of a square in Dakar:<br>
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- larger than a<br>
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<div>street (it occupies a whole city block), used
as a multipurpose common<br>
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<div>area (pickup soccer games are a staple but
parking or lounging around<br>
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<div>also occur, and the occasional popular event)
and usually surfaced with<br>
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<div>sand or whatever the ground is.<br>
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<div>We have long tagged it leisure=common (389 ways
in Senegal and 486 in<br>
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<div>Mali according to <a
href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TqN"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TqN</a>)
- which is a bit of<br>
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worked well enough and<br>
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<div>did not conflict with its British usage. But
leisure=common is now<br>
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<div>So, what should we use instead ?<br>
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href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon</a>
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<div>leisure=park - which isn't too much of a
stretch functionally but evokes<br>
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British commons are just as<br>
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<div>green and we were happy with leisure=common)...
Any other ideas ? Or I'm<br>
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<div>going to use leisure=park+surface=sand !<br>
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<div>While leisure=park might work, there is also
leisure=recreation_ground<br>
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<div>leisure=recreation_ground sounds fitting to me and
is without baggage of legal<br>
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<div>status bundled into leisure=commons<br>
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<div>This specific place looks like leisure=pitch. And
for example in Poland some <br>
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<div>sport pitch may be used for an occasional event,
festival of various types.<br>
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<div>Note: I am unfamiliar with on-the-ground situation
in Africa<br>
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