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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Às 15:36 de 02/05/2020, Philip Barnes
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<div>Hi António</div>
<div>Normally I would add direction:forward or direction:backward
to a stop or give_way to indicate which direction it applies in.</div>
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<div>Where speed limits are different you can use
maxspeed:backward and maxspeed:forward.</div>
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<div>Phil (trigpoint)</div>
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Phil, you need to read more carefully what's this about, because
it's way more complex than that.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Às 16:47 de 02/05/2020, Jarek
Piórkowski escreveu:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">António, interesting question. In my interpretation, relation
type=enforcement seems to be intended for recording or punishing
violations of rules (wiki "devices that measure and document traffic
violations") - not for the restrictive rules themselves.
Instead, maybe type=restriction + restriction=stop, with
from-to-via-position? It's not widely used, but it does have a couple
of mappers: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/restriction=stop">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/restriction=stop</a>
Possible examples:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3884744">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3884744</a> except with "to" as a
way rather than node
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2966044">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2966044</a> except probably with
the to-way split at the intersection
traffic_sign:lanes looks like it would also work, and the existing
examples seem a bit more fleshed out than for restriction=stop -
depends if you prefer :lanes tags or relations, I suppose.
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This is an open issue for several years, without a seamless
solution, but I see this popping up many times when mapping.<br>
I'm not very knowledgable about relations, and I'm sorry if I'm a
bit confused here, but doesn't a restriction relation means the
exact opposite of what's intended here?<br>
I mean, I want to apply a STOP sign to a given lane (in a way with
two lanes, for example) and force its action to a given direction on
the new road ahead.<br>
The wiki page for this type of relation doesn't mention STOP nor
GIVEWAY signs, but in the discussion page there this:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:restriction#Incorporate_.27give_way.2Fyield.27_and_.27stop.27_as_possible_restrictions">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:restriction#Incorporate_.27give_way.2Fyield.27_and_.27stop.27_as_possible_restrictions</a><br>
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If neither relation scheme (enforcement or restriction) can be
applied here (for complexity or incompatibility reasons), why not
use the existing lanes scheme?<br>
Like this:<br>
<pre><code>highway=stop
stop:lanes=yes|no
stop:turn:lanes=left
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