<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Bonjour,<br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Je suis d'accord avec Pierre : le tag
landuse=common convient bien à ces espaces ouverts dans les
villages et villes africaines et un parc n'a pas grand-chose à
voir avec.<br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Severin<br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">----<br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">I agree with Pierre: the tag
landuse=common is well suited to these open spaces in African
villages and towns and a park has little to do with it.<br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Translated with <a href="http://www.DeepL.com/Translator">www.DeepL.com/Translator</a> (free version)<br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block protonmail_signature_block-empty"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> Le mercredi 29 avril 2020 21:59, Pierre Béland via Talk-ml <talk-ml@openstreetmap.org> a écrit :<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hi Jean-Marc<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Like others, I did map many of these. I can tell you that we often see a common space in center of african villages, often near the school, and it is surely not green and have no facilities like in the Nordic countries parks.<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">People have to understand that there are often no infrastructures in African villages. But young people still gather and play.<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I dont think that the OSM tagging schema should reflect the legal status in specific countries like UK. Various tags can reflect various realities. And leisure=common seems to be quite well adapted to Africa and dont exist to stretch the legal defininition of UK. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">When the tag is used in UK, I would understand that the UK contributors want to follow a certain rule particular to their country.<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">But I dont agree to deprecate the the leisure=common tag for Africa. <br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 191)"><b><i> </i></b></span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 191)"><b><i></i></b></span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 191)"><b><i><span style="font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </span></i></b></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"><div>Le mercredi 29 avril 2020 15 h 34 min 57 s UTC−4, Jean-Marc Liotier <jm@liotier.org> a écrit :<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">Here is a 360° picture of a square in Dakar: <br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA </a>- larger than a <br></div><div dir="ltr">street (it occupies a whole city block), used as a multipurpose common <br></div><div dir="ltr">area (pickup soccer games are a staple but parking or lounging around <br></div><div dir="ltr">also occur, and the occasional popular event) and usually surfaced with <br></div><div dir="ltr">sand or whatever the ground is.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">We have long tagged it leisure=common (389 ways in Senegal and 486 in <br></div><div dir="ltr">Mali according to <a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TqN" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TqN</a>) - which is a bit of <br></div><div dir="ltr">stretch from the British legal definition, but worked well enough and <br></div><div dir="ltr">did not conflict with its British usage. But leisure=common is now <br></div><div dir="ltr">deprecated<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So, what should we use instead ? <br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon </a>suggests using <br></div><div dir="ltr">leisure=park - which isn't too much of a stretch functionally but evokes <br></div><div dir="ltr">greenery that does not occur here (though British commons are just as <br></div><div dir="ltr">green and we were happy with leisure=common)... Any other ideas ? Or I'm <br></div><div dir="ltr">going to use leisure=park+surface=sand !<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Talk-ml mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:Talk-ml@openstreetmap.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Talk-ml@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ml" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ml</a><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>