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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/2020 12:07 PM, Mateusz
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<div>May 14, 2020, 16:40 by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jmapb@gmx.com">jmapb@gmx.com</a>:<br>
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<div>On 14/05/2020 09:31, Jo wrote:<br>
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<div>Regarding the original question -- in
what circumstances are single-member
walking/hiking/biking route relations a
good mapping practice -- what would be
your answer?<br>
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<div dir="auto">Always<br>
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<div>Doesn't that violate<a target="_blank"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element"
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<div>No. The route traverses the way, it's not the way. <br>
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<p>Okay. But surely this doesn't mean that every named footway
or path should be part of a route relation. <br>
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<p>The bike trail that brad linked to, <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6632400"
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-- I've never been there but I don't offhand see any reason to
call it a route. (Brad has been there, I assume, because it
looks like he updated it 2 days ago.) There's no information
in the relation tags that isn't also on the way itself. Is
there any benefit to creating a route relation in cases like
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<div>Better handling of future way splits, consistency.</div>
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<p>I can see the advantage of using a route relation as a somewhat
future-proof persistent identity -- a relation URL that will show
the whole trail even if the way is split to add a bridge, specify
surface, etc. At the same time, though, it feels like a bit of a
stretch to declare any named trail of any length as a route, and
I'm not inclined to tack route relations overtop of the
single-segment trails I'm working on (unless they're long or part
of a network.)</p>
<p>As I mentioned, I suspect that a large force behind this is
mappers wishing certain trails to be processed or rendered
differently by various third-party software. Regardless, if there
really is burgeoning enthusiasm for this technique, one of you
single-segment route advocates might consider explaining it on the
wiki. The current language uses a lot of plurals...</p>
<p>"may go along roads or trails or combinations of these"<br>
"consist of paths taken repeatedly"<br>
"Add all different ways of the foot/hiking route to this relation.
The order of the ways matters."</p>
<p>... which leaves mappers like me & Brad scratching our heads
when we encounter one of these singleton routes.<br>
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<p>J<br>
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