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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/20 5:53 PM, Mateusz Konieczny
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<div>May 15, 2020, 01:36 by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jmapb@gmx.com">jmapb@gmx.com</a>:<br>
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<div>May 14, 2020, 16:40 by <a href="mailto:jmapb@gmx.com"
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<div>On 14/05/2020 09:31, Jo wrote:<br>
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<div>Regarding the original question --
in what circumstances are
single-member walking/hiking/biking
route relations a good mapping
practice -- what would be your answer?<br>
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<div dir="auto">Always<br>
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<div>Doesn't that violate<a rel="noopener
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<div>No. The route traverses the way, it's not the
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<p>Okay. But surely this doesn't mean that every named
footway or path should be part of a route relation. <br>
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<p>The bike trail that brad linked to, <a target="_blank"
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href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6632400"
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-- I've never been there but I don't offhand see any
reason to call it a route. (Brad has been there, I assume,
because it looks like he updated it 2 days ago.) There's
no information in the relation tags that isn't also on the
way itself. Is there any benefit to creating a route
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<div>Better handling of future way splits, consistency.<br>
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<p>I can see the advantage of using a route relation as a
somewhat future-proof persistent identity -- a relation URL
that will show the whole trail even if the way is split to add
a bridge, specify surface, etc. At the same time, though, it
feels like a bit of a stretch to declare any named trail of
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<div>Named way is not enough to be a route.<br>
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<div>Named path across forest is just a path. Route would be a
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<div>with two objects:<br>
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<div>- signed route (that has some topology, signs, maybe also a
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So you're saying any path with a sign should be a route. Should
that extend to all tracks, and roads of all varieties also? I
assume you are not limiting this to 'path across forest', it could
be path across desert, or prairie, or town park?<br>
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