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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>May 21, 2020, 23:15 by miketho16@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 1:35 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div>><br></div><div>><br></div><div>><br></div><div>><br></div><div>> May 21, 2020, 19:20 by <a href="mailto:miketho16@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">miketho16@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> So are we saying highway=path/cycleway/footway implies width<3 (or some similar value)?<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> Yes, but it may be larger. Especially busy cycleway, or cycleway on curve, or cycleway<br></div><div>> on a slope may be noticeably larger.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> There is also an old problem how large footway should be to qualify as a pedestrian road,<br></div><div>> with varied opinions.<br></div><div>Would you also say then that a way tagged as highway=path/footway/cycleway, width=4 would be an error?<br></div></div></blockquote><div>It is not an automatic error.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cycleway bridge <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.03088&mlon=19.81907#map=19/50.03088/19.81907">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.03088&mlon=19.81907#map=19/50.03088/19.81907</a><br></div><div>is quite wide, still it is clearly a cycleway.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Some areas with heavy tourism and slowly recovering nature may have extremely wide paths,<br></div><div>Czerwone Wierchy in Tatra Mountains are one of sad cases.<br></div><div><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Czerwone_Wierchy_widok_w_stron%C4%99_Tatr_Wysokich.jpg">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Czerwone_Wierchy_widok_w_stron%C4%99_Tatr_Wysokich.jpg</a><br></div><div>It is certainly path (tagged as highway=path or highway=footway)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div>General comment: I am happy to map/tag in any internally consistent way according to community consensus. However, when it comes to the highway=* tag, it seems that we have a mix of functional classification and physical classification, which is confusing. <br></div></div></blockquote><div>It is functional classification, except highway=motorway.<br></div><div><br></div><div>For simplicity and to avoid discussions people try to assign them some administrative<br></div><div>matches (maybe it works in UK as OSM copied UK administrative classification),<br></div><div>people try to assign physical classification.<br></div><div><br></div><div>There are unpaved highway=trunk, there are paved highway=track and so on.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div>A way that is used to access a private residence from a public road is highway=service, service=driveway (functional classification), unless it is too long (exact distance not specified), or too rough (physical classification).<br></div></div></blockquote><div>Way used solely to access a private residence is always highway=service, service=driveway no matter<br></div><div>whatever it is short, long, paved, unpaved, lit, unlit, ugly or 22 lanes wide.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Why you think that "too rough" driveway is no longer highway=service, service=driveway?<br></div><div>(if based on poor wiki docs then I would be happy to fix, if it is based on iD presets then<br></div><div>I would not recommend using iD presets to learn how OSM tagging works - there are<br></div><div>some problematic cases like peculiar description of highway=track that are deliberately <br></div><div>unfixed)<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div>If this is confusing for an experienced mapper and geodata geek, how are data users/consumers supposed to figure this out?<br></div></div></blockquote><div>Use OSM Wiki, use taginfo, look at data - if confused ask on mailing list (or elsewhere).<br></div> </body>
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