<div dir="ltr"><div>I would like to bring this up in the list.</div><div>I am not happy with the recent change of the key:access page of the wiki<br></div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br></div>
The OpenStreetMap Wiki page Key:access has been changed on 24 May 2020<br>
by Flohoff, see <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access</a> for the<br>
current revision. <br>
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To view this change, see<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:access&diff=next&oldid=1994688" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:access&diff=next&oldid=1994688</a><br>
-----</div><div class="gmail_quote">In my country (Italy) there are literally thousands of ways where it is most likely legal to pass by bicycle, but there is no (practical) way of finding out.</div><div class="gmail_quote">Essentially two classes:</div><ul><li>plenty of ways that look from the layout like combined foot-cycle paths but haveĀ no signage at all<br></li><li>plenty of service roads which show the "<a href="https://images.app.goo.gl/Uh6yNJ5V646TMrWw7">no transit for any vehicle" sign</a>, but in reality you can happily pass with your bicycle and no policeman will ever say anything, or even know that "no vehicle" legally includes "no bicycle", There are plenty of cases where even signposted cycle routes follow such roads.</li></ul><div class="gmail_quote">I am consistently using bicycle=permissive in these cases, well being aware that I do not know of he owner has given permission. Basically any cycle-routing would come to a halt without this trick.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">The strict wording introduced by Florian is simply not practically applicable here. <br></div><div class="gmail_quote">My questions are: <br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Is Italy the only country with this problem? <br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Is there any better proposal for tagging the situation "from all I can see on the ground, you are allowed ride through with your bicycle"<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br>
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