<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div>And there is (c) a non-urban trail with legal access for bicycles but in practice only usable with a mountain bike but lacking a MTB scale tag as the hiker, like me, who mapped it has no clue what MTB scale to put on it.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is likely the default way of interpreting highway=path with no additional tags.</div><div><br></div><div>I just commented on a new mapper using highway=footway for the above example. The response I got was that it should probably be footway, as the path was leading to stairs and as such "not accessible" by bicycle and therefore a footpath. With no additional tag I would interpret highway=footway as an urban path with some kind of smooth surface, which was not the case here and I think it should be highway=path and possible bicycle=no & mtb=no.</div><div><br></div><div><b>I still think the distinction needs to be much more clear between path|footway|cycleway for all the cases when no additional tag is being used. </b>Should a footway be used for a natural forest path where it's unlikely that MTB:s will go? No. But the wiki description leaves the door open.</div><div><br></div><div>Fine with JOSM messing up combined foot- and cycleways (I tried to look, but couldn't find an issue tracker to discuss that misbehaviour with the JOSM developers). In JOSM I get a warning if I add a combined foot- and cycleway without adding a segregated tag. <b>If highway=path with no surface tag would get the same warning in both JOSM and iD, we'd be getting at least somewhere.</b></div><div><br></div><div>Good that this discussion has lead to some improvement of the description of sac_scale. As has been mentioned, <b>sac_scale and mtb:scale need values for "no"</b> as well, to actively say that "although this is a path, it doesn't qualify for a hiking path or an mtb singletrail". <b>And the description for those tags would need to emphasize when not to use the tag, or use the "no" value. Otherwise sac_scale=hiking makes no distinction whatsoever between a paved path and a hiking path that may be quite technical.</b></div><div><br></div><div>/Daniel</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div> </div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div></div><div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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