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It already says this:<br>
"Some <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"
style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi
style="white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway"
title="Key:highway">highway</a></bdi>=<bdi>track</bdi></tt>
are used for various leisure activities - hiking, cycling, or as
jeep/ATV trails.
"<br>
on the track wiki.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack</a><br>
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I propose changing the path page from this:<br>
"If a path is wide enough for 4-wheel-vehicles (wider than 2 m), and
it is not legally signposted or otherwise only allowed for
pedestrians, cyclists or horseriders, it is often better tagged as a
<tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"
style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi
style="white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway"
title="Key:highway">highway</a></bdi>=<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack"
title="Tag:highway=track"><bdi>track</bdi></a></tt> or <tt
dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"
style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi
style="white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway"
title="Key:highway">highway</a></bdi>=<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservice"
title="Tag:highway=service"><bdi>service</bdi></a></tt>.
"<br>
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to this:<br>
"If a path is wide enough for 4-wheel-vehicles (wider than 2 m), it
is often better tagged as a <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"
style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi
style="white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway"
title="Key:highway">highway</a></bdi>=<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack"
title="Tag:highway=track"><bdi>track</bdi></a></tt> or <tt
dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"
style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi
style="white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway"
title="Key:highway">highway</a></bdi>=<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservice"
title="Tag:highway=service"><bdi>service</bdi></a></tt>.
"<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath</a><br>
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To clarify, we could change the track page from this:<br>
"This <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag"
class="mw-redirect" title="Tag">tag</a> represents roads for
mostly agricultural use, forest tracks etc.; often unpaved
(unsealed) but may apply to paved tracks as well, that are suitable
for <i>two</i>-track vehicles, such as tractors or jeeps."
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to this:<br>
"This <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag"
class="mw-redirect" title="Tag">tag</a> represents roads for
agricultural use, forest tracks, <b>recreation</b>, etc.; often
unpaved (unsealed) but may apply to paved tracks as well, that are
suitable for <i>two</i>-track vehicles, such as tractors or jeeps.
"<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/9/20 11:52 AM, Mike Thompson
wrote:<br>
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:43 AM Andrew Harvey <<a
href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>> If the way is used by "law enforcement, emergency, and
maintenance staff" motor vehicles then I'd tag it
highway=track and if it's designated for walking then
foot=designated + motor_vehicle=private, since it's wide
enough and occasionally used by vehicles, even for a path that
is mostly used for walking. <br>
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<div>This is just the opposite advice I got on this list about a
similar situation a couple of weeks ago. As a community we
need to have some consistency. There is another user (other
than I or cosmocatalano) who is going around making the exact
opposite changes as cosmocatalano. If the community agrees
with you and cosmocatalano, I will map accordingly and make
changes in my local area along those lines, but I don't want
to have the same conversation here two weeks from now. <br>
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<div>> you'd need to still indicate it's usable by motor
vehicle <br>
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<div>width=<some value greater than ~1 meter> +
smoothness=very_bad/bad/intermediate/good/excellent <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at
00:32, Mike Thompson <<a
href="mailto:miketho16@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">miketho16@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>I know we have had this discussion before, but
perhaps some of you that are more elegant (and
diplomatic) can comment on:</div>
<div><a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85034574"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85034574</a></div>
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<div>These ways exist only to provide recreation to
those on foot, bicycle or horseback. One will
occasionally see a park maintenance vehicle, such as
a side by side ATV (I don't think one could even get
a regular four wheeled vehicle back there.), but the
public is not allowed to operate motor vehicles on
these ways.<br>
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<div>Mike<br>
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