<html dir="ltr"><head></head><body style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>On Sat, 2020-06-20 at 19:25 +0100, Paul Allen wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 19:08, Martin Koppenhoefer <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> On 20. Jun 2020, at 14:44, Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com" target="_blank">pla16021@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> They should probably have disused=yes or a disused lifecycle<br>
> prefix (cue endless arguments about which) except in parts of the world<br>
> where they actually are still in use (if they are).<br>
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I think if any I would use disused=yes as they still remain „operational“ I guess, although not actually used.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>True of brick/concrete/stone. For wooden ones that are decaying, abandoned=yes</div><div>may be more appropriate. I've not had chance to take a look myself yet (and</div><div>won't be able to look until there's a vaccine) but sources I cannot use for</div><div>mapping indicate that the one nearest to me, embedded in a bank, has had</div><div>the bank reshaped to cover the top of it (only the side is visible). Using</div><div>abandoned=yes in such cases would seem appropriate.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">
The disused:key=value style seems more appropriate for functions (amenity etc.) than for physical descriptions (man_made).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That is how I interpret it, but others on this list have a different opinion. However,</div><div>I'd go with was:man_made=milk_churn_stand if it had been repurposed</div><div>in some way that it merited a different main tag. A foolish consistency</div><div>is the hobgoblin of little minds, according to Ralph Waldo Emerson.<br></div><div><br></div><div>That leaves the question of the name. For older British English speakers the</div><div>containers are called milk churns, even though they are not for churning</div><div>milk. This may cause confusion to younger speakers of British English</div><div>and those for whom English is a second language. According to the</div><div>Wikipedia article these are sometimes referred to as milk cans so<br></div><div>maybe milk_can_stand would be better than milk_churn_stand.<br></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>I can remember milk churns on these stands waiting for collection being a common sight when I was growing up.</div><div><br></div><div>These days milk churns are a common period prop on preserved railway stations.</div><div>For example here at <a href=" https://osm.org/go/euxicGgb1?node=4174332260">Arley</a> </div><div><a href="https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4458834">https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4458834</a></div><div><br></div><div>When children see these and ask what they are they will be told that they are milk churns rather milk cans.</div><div><br></div><div>Phil (trigpoint)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>-- <br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div></div></div>
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