<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 20:13, Gábor Fekete <<a href="mailto:fekgabimr@gmail.com">fekgabimr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
It's about the main function. In an imagined daily routine (similarly to Bkil), coffeehouse (and cukrászda) is the place of some social life after or between meals. One can arrange a date with his/her (girl)friend, or even a meeting with a business partner for a short talk in a posh coffeehouse in a calm ambience (soft chillout music, porcelain tableware). It's not about the food or the coffee :) <br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So nobody would ever go to a cukrászda alone, just to eat the limited fare.</div><div>And nobody would ever have a romantic meeting at a McDonalds. Except</div><div>that both of those happen. Yeah, I know you said main function, but it's all</div><div> blurred together, especially with the existing tags. McDonalds calls itself</div><div> a fast food restaurant yet I get mocked because it occupies my mental</div><div> space for "cafe" and I think of "fast food" as a type of cuisine.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The discussions so far make things murkier. At one moment bkil argues</div><div>that cukrászda sell only coffee and should be split off, and that sounds</div><div>sensible. Then he says they sell cakes. And sandwiches. Which puts</div><div>them into that broad category in the wiki for amenity=cafe, which</div><div>encompasses anything from coffee shops to diners (but not if the</div><div>diners sell fast food, everyone assures me).</div><div><br></div><div>A cukrászda sounds almost like a UK coffee shop, which can be for</div><div> socializing/meeting but is also for people who feel a little hungry. Except</div><div> places that start out as coffee shops in the UK usually end up selling more</div><div>substantial meals too.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It is a horrible mess. Our tags, especially amenity=cafe, are a poor fit to</div><div> reality. Retagging everything would be the only way to bring some sense to it.</div><div>But that will never happen. Maybe the best we can do is carve out something for</div><div> coffee shops that can be applied to newly-mapped POIs and accept that the rest</div><div> is a mess. Doing that might let this thread die down.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">-- <br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Paul</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div></div>