<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 23:20, Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com" target="_blank">pla16021@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Except we don't have seating=yes. We can differentiate<div class="gmail_quote"><div>with takeaway=yes|no|only. However, apart from the chip shop and a Greggs, all</div><div> the fast food joints near me that I can recollect are takeaway=only.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>But then how do we handle food places in food courts?</div><div><br></div><div>They would all count as =fast_food, as everything is already cooked / prepared, & they are takeaway only from the actual shopfront, but there is seating & tables 5m's away, so are they takeaway or sit-down?</div><div><br></div><div>
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 03:16, Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com" target="_blank">pla16021@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>What has happened is that some parts of the world interpret it differently.</div><div>Which is not a good thing.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>But I think we have to, because "cafes" vary so much?</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
As mentioned by Feket, a coffeehouse usually also has something to "go<br>
with" your coffee, tea or other beverage, like a sandwich, a snack or<br>
even a piece of pie or cake they purchased (possibly from a<br>
cukrászda).</blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's the problem. Where do you draw the line? Is a piece of cake food?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>When I was working at the Uni several years ago, we'd go over to one of the coffee shops for morning coffee. It was a kiosk only, & they only served tea & coffee, together with bottled water & you could also buy bottles of milk from them to take back to the staff kitchens. Fine, so it's a =coffeeshop. But, they also had a container on the counter full of biscuits (cookies) for sale! Does that then make them a cafe?</div><div><br></div><div>Similar to the food-court set-up ^, there were tables & chairs out the front, but not for their exclusive use - anybody could sit & have a chat, coffee or eat their lunch that they'd brought from somewhere else.<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> A fast food restaurant, also known as a quick service restaurant (QSR) within the industry,</blockquote><div><br></div><div>British English. and maybe just MY British English, but they're not</div><div>restaurants. To marketroids they may be, but to me they're not.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>& I agree with you, even though it was me that mentioned it! :-) <br></div><div></div><div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 05:13, Gábor Fekete <<a href="mailto:fekgabimr@gmail.com">fekgabimr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
It's about the main function. In an imagined daily routine (similarly to Bkil), coffeehouse (and cukrászda) is the place of some social life after or between meals. One can arrange a date with his/her (girl)friend, or even a meeting with a business partner for a short talk in a posh coffeehouse in a calm ambience (soft chillout music, porcelain tableware). It's not about the food or the coffee :) </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That (at least to me?) then raises the problem of opening hours (which I know can easily be defined). The vast majority of "cafes / coffee shops" (places you can get a tea / coffee & a light meal) around here open at ~6am, but they then close at ~2-3pm - they're not open after work or for an evening meal.</div><div><br></div><div>Similarly, most restaurants (full table service of a multi-course meal) don't open till ~6pm, then stay open till 11-12.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Does that affect the cafe / restaurant definition dilemma?</div><div></div><div>
<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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