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      <div dir="ltr">Looks like humus is a component of soil. So I think
        soil covers it, being a top layer consisting of mixed organic
        and mineral matter. 
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          natural=bare_soil. Wouldn't there always be some kind of
          vegetation within a year? <br>
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    <p>Not always. <br>
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    <p>Sorry to say but some soils have been so polluted combined with
      the resulting soil erosion vegetation has taken some decades to
      come back. <br>
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    <p>See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queenstown,_Tasmania#Ecology">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queenstown,_Tasmania#Ecology</a><br>
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              agree it could be considered as humus. The distinction
              between organic soil and humus is ambiguous according to <a
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              but I think it is general enough to target mostly organic
              soil.<br>
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              Shall we consider to add this specification on the
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                <b>Inviato:</b> venerdì 10 luglio 2020 12:02<br>
                <b>A:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
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                <b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -
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                <div dir="ltr">Organic without any mineral, would you
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                  <div dir="ltr">Op vr 10 jul. 2020 om 11:55 schreef
                    Martin Koppenhoefer <<a
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                    > On 10. Jul 2020, at 11:39, Mateusz Konieczny
                    via Tagging <<a
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                    > Why it would be natural=bare_ground rather than
                    natural=bare_soil?<br>
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                    +1, <br>
                    I also disagree that “soil can be organic or
                    mineral”. It has typically both, organic and mineral
                    components, but organic components are a hard
                    requirement. Otherwise it would be sand, or rock, or
                    silt or clay or loam etc. (depending on grain
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                    Cheers Martin <br>
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