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<div>To be more clear:<br></div><div>in <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Ground&diff=2018441&oldid=2018440">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Ground&diff=2018441&oldid=2018440</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I removed <br></div><div>"Any opposition vote without reason or suggestion will not be counted in the voting process."</div><div>as it is an undiscussed modification of a proposal voting and a refusal to follow instructions<br></div><div>on <b></b><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process#Voting">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process#Voting</a><b></b></div><div><br></div><div>Opposition votes without reason or suggestion are still valid and will be counted.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Though asking such voters for feedback/explanation is OK and it is<br></div><div>preferable to explain your vote.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Aug 4, 2020, 10:10 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>I partially reverted <br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Ground&diff=prev&oldid=2014966" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Ground&diff=prev&oldid=2014966</a><br></div><div>and followed<br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process#Voting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process#Voting</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Note that <br></div><div>"People should not just vote "oppose", they should give a reason for their proposal, and/or (preferably) suggestions."<br></div><div><br></div><div>is suggested at <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process#Voting" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process#Voting</a><br></div><div>and that it is not a new addition, but still pure "no"<br></div><div>vote are valid ones.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Aug 4, 2020, 09:57 by frederik@remote.org:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;" class="tutanota_quote"><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>looking at the "bare_soil" proposal I was surprised to read:<br></div><div><br></div><div>"Any opposition vote without reason or suggestion will not be counted in<br></div><div>the voting process."<br></div><div><br></div><div>Is that something that we have added by consensus?<br></div><div><br></div><div>It sounds like a somewhat sneaky measure to ignore opposition votes, or<br></div><div>discourage those who cannot properly express their opposition in English<br></div><div>from voting in the first place. It also raises the question of what<br></div><div>requirements there are for a "reason or suggestion". If I vote no with a<br></div><div>reason "it stinks", will there then be someone who says "ah, this is not<br></div><div>a valid reason" and strips me of my vote? Who will that person be?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Has this been used in other votes in the past? I'm tempted to say it<br></div><div>would invalidate any vote but maybe it *is* indeed based on consensus<br></div><div>and I missed that.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Bye<br></div><div>Frederik<br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Frederik Ramm ## eMail frederik@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"<br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Tagging mailing list<br></div><div>Tagging@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div> </body>
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